Lulu Navarro and her cohorts are now realizing (if they still haven’t realized) that indeed we, teachers, have the capacity to seriously fight back. Lulu, do you really think that you can just rob people, threaten people, step on people and expect that they will cower in a corner and shut up? Do you really think that you can get away with your oppressive and illegal operations? Do you really think that you are untouchable that by flaunting your money, your connections, and your equally corrupt lawyer, that you can do anything to exploit others and enrich your gluttonous self? Probably now you know the answers to those questions.
Well, you have underestimated us. You have underestimated the power of our unity. You have underestimated the strength of our resolve to get justice. You have underestimated the depth of our determination to bring a stop to your oppressive schemes.
Now that we, together with hundreds of our colleagues, have filed a class suit, we have opened another arena to expose your excessive modus operandi. We are looking forward to meet you (and all your lapdogs especially your officer-janitor-painter-husband) in court and expose the truth about your shady operations.
To our fellow teachers, let’s keep the broadest unities possible. We know that there are a few others, who may not agree with or do not understand fully the rationale behind our efforts. We know that some are not comfortable with the fact that we are including the EBR school district in the complaint. But please bear in mind that the main reason behind that are the actions of some personalities who represent the district which is tantamount to supporting the illegal operations of UPI and Lulu Navarro.
“We, members of the Filipino Educators Federation of Louisiana, would like to make it clear that we harbor no ill will towards the Louisiana School System. We want to emphasize that we love this community and we now consider Louisiana as our home. We think of our students as our own kids. The new superintendent has paid attention to our concerns and has closely monitored the problems we have encountered. And we have had tremendous support from the East Baton Rouge community. We will continue to give our 100 percent to our teaching vocation as we strive to push our students for a brighter future. Let me also use this opportunity to declare once again that we continue to have a strong commitment to our students, and will continue to serve the district for we believe that the actions by some individuals within the EBR School District do not represent the values of the institution and the people of Louisiana.” This is an excerpt from the statement of the Filipino Educators Federation (FEF), which we are part of. Please read the full statement now posted on the FEF website (click here).
So, we are not against the district per se but we are against the involvement of those people who represented the district. If these people are found guilty conniving with the criminal Lulu, it is but proper to include them as well as the institution they represent because clearly, the district benefited financially as the fees that they are supposed to pay as mandated by law were illegally charged to us.
Also we expect that Lulu and UPI will also mobilize her minions to counter our efforts. We fully know who these people are. We expect them to come out and say that they are very happy with how Lulu treated them (rightly so because they were paid and given perks to implement Lulu’s policies) and that the events stated in the class suit are all lies. But we are not even worried about those unprincipled people for we know that the foundation of our action is the truth and we are standing on moral high ground.
To all our fellow teachers, this battle is part of our continuing efforts to get justice. Let’s bear in mind that this is not for our individual selves or our own families only, but as teachers, as responsible Filipinos, it is our obligation to help our fellow teachers here and those who stand to be victimized if this exploitative scheme is not stopped.
Please read the full class action complaint here.
Saturday, August 7, 2010
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VICKSBURG, Miss. -- Elizabeth Duran Swinford, currently with the East Baton Rouge Parish School System, has been selected as the new superintendent of the Vicksburg Warren School District.
ReplyDeleteThe Vicksburg Post reported that Swinford was hired Tuesday on a 3-2 vote by the school board.
Board President Zelmarine Murphy said Swinford's salary has not been set.
The board set a salary range of $110,000 to $140,000 when they began the search process to replace James Price, who retired June 30.
Swinford will oversee an annual budget of about $80 million and a district that includes 15 schools and about 9,000 students and 1,300 employees.
This is a manifestation of the worsening condition of the public school teachers in the Philipipines. Filipino teachers, being trained to love their country would not choose to leave if the Philippine government will invest adequate expenditure for public education as the constitution mandates. We call on all the Filipino teachers around the world to build solidarity for our fellow teachers- in the Philippines and elswhere: let us unite for our country and for the DIGNITY OF THE TEACHING PROFESSION!
ReplyDelete-Benjo Basas
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Teachers' Dignity Coalition(TDC) Manila
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Vicksburg should rescind the appointment of Swinford. She is a disgrace to the East Baton School district for her involvement in the UPI scam. She is a close associate of Lulu Navarro and has received a lot of "gifts" from her. The people of Vicksburg should petition the officials of their district to reject Swinford because she can easily be corrupted.
ReplyDeleteYes we support the class action, we are part of it. Sa mga hindi nakakaintindi, keep your minds open and talk to the leaders of FEF.
ReplyDeletePresident gets salary adjustment quickly but teachers have to wait forever – ACT
ReplyDeleteBy MARVYN N. BENANING
August 9, 2010, 8:53am
Public school teachers envy President Benigno "Noynoy" Aquino III.
After a month on the job, Aquino has already received his pay with adjustment, while teachers are still waiting for the second tranche of their salary raise as mandated by Republic Act No. 6758, also known as the Salary Standardization Law III.
France Castro, secretary-general of the Alliance of Concerned Teachers (ACT), stressed that Executive Order No. 900 was issued by former President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo last June 23 to implement the law.
However, more than a month has passed but the promised raise has not yet fully materialized, Castro complained.
“Just the other day, President Noy was very proud about his first paycheck. We noticed that the amount was already adjusted. When we received our monthly salary last July 24, 2010, the amount was still the same. It did not yet reflect the second tranche of increase. Isn’t this unfair?” Castro lamented.
“In 2008 and 2009, public school teachers and personnel led by ACT consistently attended Senate and House committee hearings and sessions to support the P9.000 salary increase payable in three years. We even marched by the thousands towards Congress to insist on the approval of the bill on salary increase. The Salary Standardization Law III was eventually approved,” she recalled. “Our increase was just minimal, and that is why we consider this as partial victory.”
Even as the former government promised to adjust the salaries of all government employees starting June 24, 2010, and issued National Budget Circular 524 on the same day to provide the implementing rules and guidelines for the salary increase, it failed to deliver on its pledge.
Castro said RA 6758 was enacted into law consistent with the principle of providing equitable and just wages to all government personnel.
The same law mandates that the salaries of government employees must be comparable to those in the private sector who hold similar positions.
Castro noted that the adjustment was to be paid in four tranches in four consecutive years.
Every year, an executive order and a National Budget Circular are issued to provide the guidelines for the implementation of the pay increase.
“Public school teachers are at the middle of the salary classification ladder and [are] entitled to an increase of P6,500 in four years. Positions that are in the higher level of the salary classification, including that of the President, are entitled to a higher rate of increase. The whole classification system seems inequitous. Worse, the increase due us is not available. We thought 'wang-wang' and 'counterflow' are no longer allowed,” Castro said.
We feel sorry for these teachers who are honest and don't shy away from financial responsibilities. They make around 16,000 pesos per month, roughly around 300 dollars, while teachers abroad make as much as 6000 dollars or more a month. And yet, they have the audacity to complaint (forced labor) against their employer. A lot of american citizen (teachers) are unemployed right now. Be cautious in what you do because it might go around a bite you in the end.
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ReplyDeletehttp://www.mb.com.ph/articles/271376/president-gets-salary-adjustment-quickly-teachers-have-wait-forever-act
ReplyDeletethe bottom line of all these is not about justice that they are crying for. this is all about money....hunger for more money.. and that's called GREED!
ReplyDeleteGOPer Gov. Bobby Jindal....is down there in Lousiana WHINING and crying about what the oil did to his state. He is whining about the unemployment rate and WHY BP show be allowed to pump oil right away because people are hurting in his state. An.....then the GOP brings in foreign low wage earners to KEEP from hiring qualified American teachers...or even future students who hope to pursue a career in education. This is the TYPE of immigration Bush/GOP loves....that kind that PUTS AMERICANS out of work....
ReplyDeleteAnyone who thinks things like slavery and indentured servitude went out in the Middle Ages better think again. Anyone who thinks it can only happen to Filipinos and other 3rd worlders better think again.
ReplyDeleteWith thousands of American teachers out of work, who in the hell cares if a government entity, like louisiana is stupid enough to hire foriegn workers to teach our children, and in the fashion of most big-business endeavors, these offshore hires are subjected to unfair treatment? Go home! Stupid louisiana! Stupid US guest worker program! Stupid guest workers!Go home and leave the teaching jobs to Americans ONLY! Cry babiesss!
ReplyDeleteWhy do we need Filipino or any other country's teachers here in the U.S. when we have thousands of excellent, highly qualified teachers right here in our own backyard? There are hundreds if not thousands of Louisiana teachers that would love to have the opportunity to teach their own in their own state. What the hell is this country doing bringing in foreigners when we have qualified AMERICAN teachers right here? Haven't we had enough of outsourcing, off-shoring and hiring of foreigners when we have our own. America, wake up! When you want an answer as to why unemployment continues to remain high, just remember this story of foreign teachers taking jobs that AMERICANS DO WANT; corporations snubbing their noses at American workers by sending jobs to India, China and elsewhere and employers hiring illegals to do jobs that American DO WANT TO DO. This is sickening!
ReplyDeleteif these people were victims of human-trafficking, then they are illegal aliens and we have to deport them back to their country.
ReplyDeletego home illegals.
ReplyDeleteGlobalNationInquirer.netAko ay teacher din dito sa US at ang problema nitong mga teacher na to ay gusto nilang ilibre yung pagpunta nila dito sa america. Unang-una alam nila na dapat silang magbayad ng ganitong halaga at wala silang reklamo dahil gustong-gusto nilang makapagturo dito. Ngayon na nandito na sila gusto nilang bawiin yung mga binayad nila. Eto ay simpleng case ng 1-2-3. Hindi ako naniwalang blinded sila sa halagang dapat nilang ibayad. For me this is just plain stupidity sa mga Guro o sinumang nagpasimuno nito. Kagaya din sila nung mga iilang pinoy teacher na swapang sa texas na walang inisip kung hindi mga sarili lamang nila. Shame on you coz you. Sinong private agencies pa ngayun ang maglakasloob na mag-recruit ng mga potential pinoy teacher if things like this keeps on happening? Nakapanghinayang!!!!!!
ReplyDeletei think google.blogspot is monitoring this blog. be careful. hack.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said... "if these people were victims of human-trafficking, then they are illegal aliens and we have to deport them back to their country."
ReplyDeleteThis person has flawed logic. We have answered this type of shallow assertion before in this blog. I dont wan't to even waste my time on this.
TeacherUSA, are you really a teacher? Are you going to teach children that its ok to look the other way if you see a blatant injustice? You are saying that its ok that these exorbitant charges, dishonest and non-transparent recruitment schemes and threats continue as long as you are here in America? What about the next set of victims? And who told you that we want to go here and work without paying any placement fee? Obviously you are ignorant of the facts of this case.
ReplyDeleteSuzyspeaks said "Why do we need Filipino or any other country's teachers here in the U.S. when we have thousands of excellent, highly qualified teachers right here in our own backyard?"
ReplyDeleteContrary to your assertion, there has been a shortage of teachers in Math, Science and Special Education here in the US since at least 5 years ago. Are you not wondering why US kids lag far behind in math and science compared to many developed countries? There must surely be a problem with the US' educational system and the lack of qualified teachers is one of the factors exacerbating the problem.
You are so stupid AminFla! You are one good example why it is not a good idea to "leave the teaching jobs to Americans ONLY!" Gurong Sulong is right, I have even read studies saying US kids are below average in Science and Math compared to many countries with advance economies.
ReplyDeletehuman trafficking is harboring illegal foreigner enter our country, therefore; they illegal aliens and must be deported immediately. The school district should immediately cancel your H-1 temporary visas because you claim human-trafficking. Go back to your country and stop stealing our jobs. You are the reason why we have a high unemployment rate. ILLEGALS go HOME NOW!
ReplyDeleteContrary to your assertion, there has been a shortage of teachers in Math, Science and Special Education here in the US since at least 5 years ago.
ReplyDeleteAnd H-1 foreigners are not qualified to teach in this country. We have a lot of unemployed qualified teachers that the union screwed up. You foreigners are next in line. thank you AFT/LFT, you guys are doing your job. get this foreigner out like what you did in New Orleans.
It does not follow that because the process by which these teachers are brought into the US is tainted with illegal activities, it then means that their H1B visas are not valid. The document is valid, their work visas are valid. but there were laws violated relating to the exploitation of these teachers.
ReplyDelete"And H-1 foreigners are not qualified to teach in this country."
ReplyDeleteWhere did you get that information?
H1B visas are non-immigrant working visas involving a “specialty occupation,” which requires special skills in that particular field. This type of visa is granted as long as the foreign professional have at least a bachelor’s degree or its equivalent.
Here is another baseless and stupid comment:
ReplyDelete"Go back to your country and stop stealing our jobs. You are the reason why we have a high unemployment rate. ILLEGALS go HOME NOW!"
You are now blaming us, teachers who were invited here to teach by your school districts, that we caused the current economic crisis that resulted to the increase in unemployment rate? Ask your very intelligent wall street bankers and your bright politicians if your diagnosis of the cause of unemployement here in the US is correct? Your reasoning is so lame!
.... ang gulo, ang gulogulo na talaga......
ReplyDeletekawawang mga pinoy...hintayin nyo na lang pink slip ninyo in two years kasi balik pinas ulit kayo...dun naman kayo mag-rally na wala kayong mga work...sayang nga pagkakataon dahil sa inyong mga katangahan! alam naman ng maraming pinoy na maraming mapagsamantalang recruiter sa pinas eh sumige parin kayo...alam naman ninyong malaki ang babayaran ninyo eh tumuloy parin kayo tapos magrereklamo kayo...magbalot-balot na kayo kasi manalo o matalo man kayo dito sa mga pinag-gagawa ninyo pa-uuwiin din kayong lahat....kawawa gutom naman ang mga pamilya ninyo sa pinas!
ReplyDeleteMas tanga ka kung alam mo na na niloko ka, alam mo na na hindi naging transparent ang recruiter mo, pagdating mo dito wala ka rin trabaho, at hindi ka pa aangal!
ReplyDeleteThat is exactly the mentality that Lulu Navarro wants us to have. Na kahit anong abuso nya, kahit anong ipatong nya na bagong fees, kahit tinatarantado na tayo ay ok lang tayo ng ok. So its your choice if you want to just swallow the injustice as suggested by the Anonymous OR stand up to fight and help yourself and help other Filipinos who stand to be victimized.
ReplyDeleteIt is very obvious that the group who did not want to get involve in the fight but ONLY on the BENEFITS are the ones who are flagging this blog with comments posing as locals!
ReplyDeleteIf you did not experience the abuses and exploitations that WE did DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE ARE LYING ABOUT OUR EXPERIENCES. You should be thankful that you were lucky enough that Lulu did not do all of this to you and help the ones who did experience this instead of fighting or belying their statements!
It's very funny that after the decision of the LWC, a lot of those two faced freaks pretended to agree with this cause and even wearing white to pretend they have been involved...was it because of the supposedly refund of fees? It is ironic that the very people leading this so called group that wants to opt out of this cause now are the very ones who believed that there was politics involved in our hiring thats why we arrived here so fast! Opting out for fear of not getting their supposedly immigrant visas! And I emphasize again..."THEIR visas"! Stop thinking of yourselves!
what happened to the 'assembly meeting' spearheaded by W. Tagapulot and R. Depol?
ReplyDeleteWe have respected your decision of filing a lawsuit even without our consent.You should learn to respect us also. Why should we post negative comments about the Filipinos?We are also hurt by those comments because we are also Filipinos, but as you said, this is a blogsite.Anybody can post any comment. We are one in our goal: prosecute UPI and let justice be served. However, we do not want our employer to be included in the lawsuit. We want to set our record straight. We have been unjustly dragged into this lawsuit without our knowledge.You have tarnished our record. Despite everything, we respect your decision.This should not cause any division or animosity.Hindi kami nakikipag-away at hindi tayo dapat magkaaway.Respeto lang naman sana sa kapwa ninyo.Kung may prinsipyo kayo, kami rin:ayaw naming magdemanda ng sarili naming employer.Mapauwi kami o hindi, gusto lang naming malinis ang record namin.
ReplyDelete"Malinis" ang record? Is asserting your right by filing a lawsuit considered "marumi"? Dudumi ba sa record mo kung you are a plaintiff in a case? Hmm, di ko yata dig yun a.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said "prosecute UPI and let justice be served. However, we do not want our employer to be included in the lawsuit."
ReplyDeleteAs much as this is what we want to happen but the facts of case remains that the school district through its representative, with their knowledge, tolerated and cooperated with the modus operandi of Lulu. We cannot simply sweep those facts under the rug.
It's not right to apply justice selectively. and the current leadership of the school district understand that. In fact it is in the best interest of the district (and the public), to have these issues come to light so that they will be able to identify those officers who abused their authority.
Further, such is the nature of a class action lawsuit. It's not always feasible to talked to every single person who constitutes a "class". Just like in any class action lawsuits, some would want to opt out especially when you do not share the experiences of the rest in the class or you prefer to lodge a separate complaint.
ReplyDeleteThere will be a way to opt out and the leaders of FEF will surely assist those who would want to do just that. Just remember that opting out of a class suit means that you will no longer be eligible to share in whatever judgment that will come out of the case, either positive or negative.
We already have the numbers, and as much as we would like more to join us, we are not forcing anyone. Just keep an open mind, make a decision and exercise your right.
you explained it well, gurong sulong. pero sama pa rin kami. we have supported our LWC case, we will continue to support the class suit. nabasa na, di maligo na lang din. we know that what we are doing is for our interest and for the greater good.
ReplyDeletenakabili ng bagong bahay, yan ba ang inapi
ReplyDeletenakabili ng bagong kotse, yan ba ang inapi
nakabili ng mga bagong gamit, yan ba ang inapi
tumatanggap ka ng sahod, yan ba ang inapi
tumatanggap ka ng mga benepisyo, yan ba ang inapi
namumuhay kayo ng parang mga harit' reyna, yan ba ang inapi
may bayad ang mga seminar ninyo, yan ba ang inapi
pumapasok at umuuwi kayo sa oras galing sa trabaho, yan ba ang inapi
nakakapag- bar kayo anumang oras na gustuhin ninyo, yan ba ang inapi
nakakapamasyal kayo kong saan, yan ba ang inapi
PERA-PERA LANG NAMAN ITO...YAN ANG HABOL NINYO HINDI HUSTISYA....AMININ MAN NINYO SA HINDI YAN ANG PINAKA-RASON BAKIT ISAMA NINYO PATI SCHOOL DISTRIC. ALAM KASI NINYO NA HINDI NINYO MAKUKUHA KAY LULU ANG PERANG HINAHABOL NINYO KAYA ISINAMA NINYO ANG EBR KASI MAYRUN SILANG SAPAT NA PONDO PARA BUMAYAD NANG DANYOS....MAY INSURANCE ANG EBR PAGDATING SA GANITONG MGA KASO KAYA ISINAMA NINYO......MODERATE YOUR GREED! KASI BAKA HINDI KAYO TANGGAPIN NI SATANAS SA KANYANG KAHARIAAN KASI INAAGAWAN NINYO SIYA NG KANYANG TRABAHO...AMININ MAN NINYO SA HINDI....PERA ANG HABOL NINYO HINDI HUSTISYA....KAKAHIYA KAYO! greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeDY!
ikaw ang tanga kasi nagpaloko ka...hahahahaha...
ReplyDeletethey are oppressed, yet they have new house;
ReplyDeletethey are oppressed, yet they have new car;
they are oppressed, yet they have luxurious things;
they are oppressed, yet they are receiving full salary;
they are oppressed, yet they are enjoying their benefits;
they are oppressed, yet they live like kings and queens;
they are oppressed, yet their seminars are paid;
they are oppressed, yet they can go to bar anytime they want;
they are oppressed, yet they can go to places anytime they want;
they are opppressed, yet they can go to restaurant they like;
they are oppressed, yet they can report to and leave from their workplace on time;
they are oppressed, yet they bring their family here;
they are oppressed, yet they want to stay here;
they are oppressed, yet they love this place;
they are oppressed, yet they want to work here. ironic!
this is all about money. this has nothing to do with justice your crying for but MONEY. the very reason why you include EBR in your complaint because you knew that LULU has no capacity to pay the damages you're asking and that EBR has the capacity to do so. EBR has the insurance to pay for the damages you're asking so you include them in your complaint. MODERATE YOUR GREED!SATAN MIGHT NOT ACCEPT YOU IN HELL BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY HI JOB! WHETHER OR NOT YOU ACCEPT THIS....YOU'RE AFTER THE MONEY NOT JUSTICE...WHAT A SHAME! GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Response po ito kay gurong-sulong...good day po sa iyo, tanong ko lang po bakit mo sinasabi na pwede naman mag-opt out sa pagdemanda sa EBR kung ayaw... eh marami naman ang hindi nag-opt in or pumasok sa kaso...bakit may choice na mag-opt out..... hindi naman alam na kasama sila sa demanda nyo, nabigla nga eh.... you included our name without our consent...Oo nga okey lang po na wala kaming parte kung manalo kayo, basta huwag lang kami madamay sa kaso againts EBR. We will respect you and your groups decision. Sana naman respetuhin nyo rin ang desisyon namin. Hindi namin sinisira-an kayo or ang kaso nyo... gusto lang namin matanggal ang pangalan namin sa pagdemanda sa EBR sa lalong madaling panahon, ayaw namin hintayin yung sinasabi mong mag-opt out.. kasi may MOA-Memorandum of understanding na kahit 3 years ang VISA mo, pero every year ang evaluation mo at anytime pwede kang ma-tsogi. EBR has the capacity to do something. So, please huwag nyo naman masama-in ang action at sira-an si Waren at Depol, di po nila pinilit yung mga teachers kasi may mga isip at talino po sila. I assure you, wala pong kinalaman si Lulu dito at wala kaming tinatanggap sa kanya na gawin ito. Pare-preho lang tayo na na-api ni Lulu,di lang kayo, so bakit kami gagawa ng favor para sa kanya Hindi po kami namimilit, i-no-open po namin sa lahat ito para transparent at di kami mag-mukhang selfish, concern din po kami sa kanila kaya pina-alam at ganon rin para di kami masisi, kung ano man ang resulta. Kahit ka-unti lang kami, okey lang itutuloy namin.... gusto lang namin iparating sa EBR na hindi kami kasali sa pagdemanda sa kanila. Salamat po ng marami.
ReplyDeleteHaha, this anonymous is saying that for you to be oppressed and a victim of injustice you should live like a pauper, you should live a miserable life and you have no right to enjoy life. You are a teacher but you dont seem to have sound logic. It shows how bankrupt your mind is, you resort to those kinds of empty reasoning.
ReplyDeleteMany of us, by struggling and saving, are able to buy used cars and rent better appartments (than the one forced on us called Savoy) and are able to go to eat out once in a while. So whats wrong with that? Why are you so concerned with how other people spend their money? Stupidity indeed...
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, the reason that you have to opt out is because of the very nature of a class action lawsuit. That is how class actions are. A pattern of violation against a group is proven to show that the rights of a class was violated. So in a class action process, that is how it works: a portion of the class will file a complaint first, then and only then can those who do not want to join can opt out.
ReplyDeleteFor example, Lulu's Cup Cakes distributed by Swinford Foods Inc in Louisiana was proven to contain harmful bacteria. Now members of the class (those who consumed Lulu's Cup Cakes) filed a class lawsuit against Lulu's Cup Cakes as well as against the distributor. (By the way, an employee of Swinford Foods, named Beth, knew of the presence of bacteria, yet decided to sell those cup cakes.) The part of the class who initiated the lawsuit couldn't possibly talk to all who consumed the toxic cupcake and check who wants to join or not. But regardless, what has happened is that most of those who ate the cup cake got sick. Now if some consumers later came out and say they are big fans of Lulu's treats, that cup cakes are good, and they didn't get sick then they can opt out of the case.
So walang personalan. We will respect whatever decision you take. But don't accuse us of being disrespectful to you because as we have explained that is not the case and there was no intention to disrespect you. That is just how it works.
Ay dapat pala para mas accurate, I named the distibrutor as EBR Foods Inc. The consumers actually have no ill feelings towards EBR Foods Inc because this company has been around and has a good reputation. The distributor was only dragged into the case because Beth, the errant employee, allowed the toxic cupcakes to be sold despite knowing about the contamination.
ReplyDelete"they are opppressed, yet they can go to restaurant they like;"
ReplyDeleteSo if you are oppressed, you should not eat in a restaurant you like?!!!! Ang bobo bobo mo!!!!! Magkano bayad ni Lulu sa yo?
don't bow down to the stupidity of that anonymous. it is clear that he/she do not have the intelectual capacity to a meaningful debate. so the only way for him/her to counter is to taint our efforts with bad intentions.
ReplyDeleteTreb, you got that right! If the discusson is only on the merit of the case, they dont have anything intelligent to say. So they resort to baseless accusations and hollow arguments.
ReplyDeletehindi kailangan ang paliwanag ng kung sinuman sa taong ayaw sumama sa kaso.you've heard their side why they don't wanna join in the case.bakit kelangan nyo pang mg explain where infact ayaw nga nila. HINDI BA YAN ANG TAHASANG "OPPRESION" NA SINASABI? PANG-AAPI baga dahil umayaw na nga ang tao pilit pa rin nang pilit. you need to learn how to respect other's decision. In my case, I don't wanna know whatever the nature of a class suit is. All I want is not to get involved in your move. PERIOD! MAHIRAP BANG INTINDIHIN YAN? act like a teacher, a professional one just like what you profess all the time. suyurin mo lahat at itanong kung sino lang ang gustong magdemanda hindi yong lahat ng teachers sinali mo. pati yong mga nananahimik na at wala na dito nadawit pa. GO AFTER YOUR GREEN CARD if that's the way you wanna get it,but not on the expense of others. You will never have that peace of mind through out your life if you don't learn how to forgive.I need to tell you that. After all, after 3 years of teaching here, parang wala pa ring asensong ngyari sa buhay mo/nyo dahil ganon pa rin ang isinisigaw nyo at paiyak-iyak pa kayo sa video. If until now baon pa rin kayo sa utang, ewan ko kung kaninong kasalanan yan. pero sigurado ako, hindi na yon kasalanan pa ng ibang tao. kaya matuto na sana kayong maging kontento with what you have right now. make the most out of what you have right now hindi yong kung anu-anong kaso na lang ang naiisip nyo. Have that peace of mind and live a simple life.manahimik na tayo.
ReplyDeleteKelan ba kayo magbibigay ng letter para mag-opt out kami?Hindi na kasi namin mahihintay pa yang letter na yan.Meantime, while we are waiting for that letter, our name is unjustly dragged into this lawsuit.Hindi naman yata tama yan.What if hindi na ako ma-renew next year at wala pa yang letter to opt out, paano na ako?Ayaw ko namang magkaroon ng bad record na kinakasuhan ko ang employer ko.Baka hindi na kasi ako makapag-apply sa ibang state dahil definitely magcoconduct ng background investigation ang prospective employer.Baka ma-blacklist pa ako dahil dyan.Kaya ako magbibigay ng sulat sa schoolboard para linisin ang pangalan ko at maiwasang ma-blacklist ako if ever mag-apply ako sa iba.
ReplyDeleteganun naman pala na pwedeng mag-opt out sa case na yan, eh bakit galit kayo na magpapadala kami ng letter sa schoolboard para linisin ang pangalan namin?inaamin naman ninyo that some of us would want to opt out of the case, so wag ninyo kaming pigilang gumawa ng letter.definitely mag-oopt out kami pag dumating yang letter na yan, meantime gusto rin naming iparating sa schoolboard na hindi kami kasali sa pagdedemanda sa kanila.ano ba ang pagkakaiba ng dalawang move na yan?pareho lang di ba?pareho lang na hindi sumasang-ayon sa pagkakaso sa employer.bakit kailangan ninyo kaming siraan at kutyain?bakit kailangan ninyong sabihing wala kaming prinsipyo at sarili lang ang iniisip?kung hindi kaya ng kunsensya ninyo na pabayaan ang ibang teachers na sinasabi ninyong dahilan kaya gusto ninyong kasuhan ang ebr, mas hindi namin kayang pabayaan ang pamilya namin.ano ang mangyayari sa amin kung nakakabit sa record namin na kinakasuhan namin ang employer namin?sa tingin ba ninyo mataas pa rin ang chance na makahanap kami ng ibang trabaho halimbawang matanggal kami sa ebr?paano namin bubuhayin ang sarili namin?yung malinis na record lang ang pinanghahawakan namin dito sa US.sinira na ninyo ito at itinatama lang namin ang mga pagkakamali ninyo.
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ReplyDeletewe respect the right of anyone who wishes to express what they think is right and beneficial to him, hence we respect the efforts the small group of teachers are doing right now, particularly the manifesto stressing that they are not part of the civil case filed by the vast majority of Filipino teachers in the whole of Louisiana.
ReplyDeleteeach has chosen where to side, be it pro or against the abuse, or at the middle and careless. we also has each level of tolerance to exploitation as well as intensity of principles. likewise, all of us has each priorities, some cares for noone but themselves, or their families, while there are who are made to fight for others welfare.
it is just sickening to see that as teachers and as Filipinos, our views are polarized for whatever reason or pressures teachers have.
i still have high regards for those idealistic teachers who can't stand any kind of unjust practice and i pity tough i can't blame those who are instruments of abuse. i pity also the others concept and precept of the matter, i am sorry if there was a lapse or communication black out before which isolated you from the information of the merits of this case. we are opening now the liberty of info dessimination on the real score of the case and how it evolved, where it is heading and why it was filed the way it was filed. a legal debriefing is scheduled purposely for the group who wants to know the answers of said questions.
but then, the small group of teachers is hasty in the decision of not hearing the legal and moral side of the matter. whatever your motives are, we should not care.
good luck!
MAIRI NUNAG-TAĂ‘EDO, INGRID CRUZ,
ReplyDeleteDONNABEL ESCUADRA, ROLANDO
PASCUAL, and TOMASA MARI, on behalf
of themselves and other similarly situated
individuals,
Plaintiffs,
v.
EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH SCHOOL
BOARD, CHARLOTTE D. PLACIDE,
MILLIE WILLIAMS, ELIZABETH DURAN
SWINFORD, UNIVERSAL PLACEMENT
INTERNATIONAL, INC., LOURDES
“LULU” NAVARRO, HOTHELLO “JACK”
NAVARRO, PARS INTERNATIONAL
PLACEMENT AGENCY, EMILIO V.
VILLARBA, ROBERT B. SILVERMAN,
and SILVERMAN & ASSOCIATES,
Defendants.
Civ.No. _____________________
COMPLAINT
CLASS ACTION
JURY TRIAL DEMANDED
Yan ang nakalagay sa first page ng class action complaint.Ipaliwanag mo nga sa akin kung paano mo masasabing yung tatlong employees lang ang kinasuhan ninyo? First on the list: East Baton Rouge Parish School Board. tignan mo ang NOA mo, sino ang petitioner mo?East Baton Rouge Parish School Board.eh sino ang employer mo? maliwanag na kinakasuhan mo pati ang employer mo.
we are not instruments of abuse. we just cannot afford the kind of principle that you are espousing at this time.do not judge us.do not force us to join the lawsuit.we know what is best for us.
ReplyDeletetreb,
ReplyDeleteanonymous comments only shows that he/she was able to unmasked your hidden agenda in the name of justice....money. money is the root of all evil. since you're blinded with the aroma of dollar, Satan is lurking in your group! tell me if you're not after the money. in your complaint your group is asking compensatory damages....in short money! how much is your share for putting your name in this case?....money,money,money,money,money.
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Defendants”) and legal facilitators (referred to collectively as “Legal Facilitator
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who took steps to ensure the trafficking scheme was viable.
YAN ang nakalagay sa preliminary statement ng lawsuit complaint ninyo.Basahin nyong mabuti.Di ba kinakasuhan nyo ang employer ninyo to recover damages and to seek declaratory and injunctive relief? Bakit patuloy ninyong nililinlang ang mga teachers at sinasabing yung tatlong employees lang ng EBr ang kinakasuhan ninyo?Maawa naman kayo sa mga idinadamay ninyo.Buhay ng pamilya nila ang nakataya dito!
3. Plaintiffs bring this action on behalf of themselves and similarly
ReplyDeletesituated teachers to recover damages and to seek declaratory and injunctive relief against the fraudulent and malicious recruiters (referred to collectively as “Recruiter Defendants”) and legal facilitators (referred to collectively as “Legal FacilitatorDefendants”) who the Louisiana School Districts hired, as well as from one of their employers, the East Baton Rouge Parish School Board (“EBRPSB”), and agents ofEBRPSB (referred to collectively as “Employer Defendants”), who were aware, or reasonably should have known of the Recruiter Defendants’ egregious conduct, and who took steps to ensure the trafficking scheme was viable.
YAN ang nakalagay sa preliminary statement ng lawsuit complaint ninyo.Basahin nyong mabuti.Di ba kinakasuhan nyo ang employer ninyo to recover damages and to seek declaratory and injunctive relief? Bakit patuloy ninyong nililinlang ang mga teachers at sinasabing yung tatlong employees lang ng EBr ang kinakasuhan ninyo?Maawa naman kayo sa mga idinadamay ninyo.Buhay ng pamilya nila ang nakataya dito!
pls lang wag idamay si cheska. last year TEACHER OF THE YEAR sya...
ReplyDeleteTo whom it may concern,
ReplyDeleteI have never, nor my wife, posted a comment on this blogsite but now. For if I had, you would have surely seen my name with it because i always put my money where my mouth is. Hindi ko kailangan magtago o gamitin ang pangalan ng iba para sa sarili kong kapakanan.
To Ms. Ingrid Cruz et.al., as everyone knows, i strongly disagree with your opinion and your move against the EBR School Board, but still i respected it. Sana igalang rin ninyo ang karapatan ko at ng iba.
I request that we stay as objective as possible on this matter, but should it please some people to continue to personally attack me or my wife, then God be with them.
As it is my first , so shall it be my last posting on this site. Salamat.
Sumulat kayo sa school niyo at ipa NOTARY public seal niyo na hindi kayo kasama sa civil lawsuit. Kasi kapag nag apply tayo sa ibang eskuela, hihinge sila ng recommendation o kaya itanong kung may demanda ka sa school mo dati. Sasabihin sigurado ang nangyari sa lawsuit at tatanong kung kasama tayo. Hindi lang nag sasalita ang school at naka smile pa sa iyo pag nakita ka, pero alam nila kung sino ang nag-demanda sa kanila. Check in niyo kung nan doon ang name niyo kasi baka sinama ka or tayo para mapalakas ang case nila. Siguro ako na may mangyayari next year na hindi natin gusto. Hindi ka tutulungan na union kasi yun ang gusto nila na mapa-alis tayo. Kasi ginawa ng union sa NewYork na ito at texas. Bumalik na ang mga kasama ko kasi hindi sila makakita ng TRABAHO dahil may case sila sa school nila. Basta importante ang pamilya natin at magsikap tayo.
ReplyDeleteGoodluck sa mga ayaw madamay sa gulo.
Sumulat na kayo at e pa notary niyo para sigurado.
huwag kayong maniwala na hindi kasama ang names natin.
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ReplyDeleteMga kasama, lets maintain a healthy discussion and refrain from attacking persons and throwing baseless accusations. As much as possible lets stick to the issues.
ReplyDeleteWe are happy that you are posting very passionate comments. All the postings are relevant as they all talked about your opinion and feelings about whats happening here in Louisiana, but unfortunately we have to delete some which we feel falls outside the scope and intention of this blog.
ReplyDeleteMAIRI NUNAG-TAĂ‘EDO, INGRID CRUZ,
ReplyDeleteDONNABEL ESCUADRA, ROLANDO
PASCUAL, and TOMASA MARI, on behalf
of themselves and other
similarly situated
individuals (ano ang ibig sabihin ng statement na ito, sino ang mga ito? please lang huwag niyong isama ang pangalan ng iba,
Plaintiffs
similar situated individuals. paki post kung sino ang mga ito. para malaman namin kung sino sila.
What i don't understand is this anonymous who keeps whining about somebody forcing him/her to join the class action. I read all the comments here and there is no one forcing you to join us! In fact, all i read is people telling you to just decide for yourself. Read the comments of gurong sulong and others who are supportive of the action, there is no comment forcing you to join.
ReplyDeleteNo, we are not forcing you and we will not force you. Please don't compliment yourself, we will not waste our time convincing people like you.
Anonymous hindi ka judge to order us to post those "similarly situated". Hindi ka ba marunong magbasa, andyan naman sa complaint ang definition. That will be an issue that will be deliberated in court, so stop being childish.
ReplyDeleteI'm just wondering why this anonymous is copying and pasting excerpts from the complaint. It is as if we are hiding that fact that EBR is included in the case. Yes, even in the FEF statement we are already being open about that. May nagsabi be na hindi kasama ang EBR sa respondents? Wala naman a. But read our complete statement as it clarifies the group's position on that issue.
ReplyDeleteWe are very open that anyone can scrutinize the complaint. That is why we made it a point to have a link to the document here so that all of you can read it.
Fellow teachers, let us not allow this person to affect our efforts. This anonymous is only one or two people. He is asking for respect of his decision not to join the class suit, pero he is posting comments that are devoid of reason and only full of accusation questioning our motives. Hypocrite!
ReplyDeletetalaga, sinasabi nyo na pati ebr kasama sa kaso?itanong mo yan kay ingrid, eva at donna.kelan lang sinabi nila na yung tatlong employees lang ang sinampahan ng demanda.mga sinungaling pala kayo eh.basahin nyo nga yung nilalaman ng posting ninyo entitled "support the class suit!" paragraph 6.sabi nyo you are not against the disrict per se. eh bakit kasama sa lawsuit ang East Baton Rouge Parish School Board. yan ang entity mismo, yan ang nag-eembody sa buong school district. at bakit nyo sinasabing di nyo kami ini-encourage sumama sa lawsuit? ano ba ang title ng posting ninyo? "support the class suit!" that's a subtle way of encouraging us.ehakit naman kaya nagtatawag si ingrid?is that not a subtle of encouraging us?di naman siguro kami mga tanga.
ReplyDelete"hindi kailangan ang paliwanag ng kung sinuman sa taong ayaw sumama sa kaso.you've heard their side why they don't wanna join in the case.bakit kelangan nyo pang mg explain where infact ayaw nga nila. HINDI BA YAN ANG TAHASANG "OPPRESION" NA SINASABI? PANG-AAPI baga dahil umayaw na nga ang tao pilit pa rin nang pilit."
ReplyDeleteWho said I am forcing you? I am not. Do not stop me or anybody here from posting explanation or opinions why we think your reasoning is wrong. Remember, I am not posting here for you only but for all to read and consider. I am writing to explain the nature of a class suit because apparently you are ingorant of it. I am only explaining why in a class suit you don't have to talk to every single member of the "class" before filing the lawsuit because of feasibility considerations among others. But if you refuse to open you mind, that not our problem.
And just because we want to explain, you call that "oppression"? You feel na aping-api ka kasi we still continue to post our opinion in this blog? Please grow up.
ingrid, di ba yang sulat na galing sa poverty law center eh sinasabing hindi kami pwedeng galawin ng ebr hanggat nandyan ang kaso otherwise retaliation na yun?what if magdeclare ng Reduction in Force ang EBR?(recession pa naman kaya justifiable yun)sa palagay mo, kaya kaming protektahan ng sulat na yan?hindi, di ba?ano ang pinakamabuti naming gawin?linisin ang pangalan namin para kapag natanggal kami sa work eh walang kasong nakabuntot sa amin at makakakuha pa rin kami ng recommendation letter from our principal or from the human resource office?ano sa palagay mo?
ReplyDelete"So, we are not against the district per se but we are against the involvement of those people who represented the district. If these people are found guilty conniving with the criminal Lulu, it is but proper to include them as well as the institution they represent because clearly, the district benefited financially as the fees that they are supposed to pay as mandated by law were illegally charged to us."
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, read the full paragraph above. di ka yata nagbabasa ng mabuti e.
at least man lang sana ingrid, eva, tony at donna pinulsuhan ninyo kung ano ang gusto ng mga members ninyo.officers pa mandin kayo, representative of the people who voted you into office.respeto na lang sana sa mga kasamahan ninyo sa organization.hindi lang naman pangalan ninyo ang nadadamay sa issue.lahat ng Filipino teachers sa Louisiana damay.
ReplyDeleteThat is the problem with you, you are just attacking and attacking without reading carefully and studying our positions.
ReplyDeleteeh bakit nga ninyo isinama sa complaint ang east baton rouge parish school board?eh di sana yung mga employees lang ang kinasuhan ninyo?ang school board at school district eh pareho lang yan, they are one and the same entity!kakasuhan mo tapos sasabihin mo hindi ka against?ano yan?
ReplyDeleteingrid, di ba yang sulat na galing sa poverty law center eh sinasabing hindi kami pwedeng galawin ng ebr hanggat nandyan ang kaso otherwise retaliation na yun?what if magdeclare ng Reduction in Force ang EBR?(recession pa naman kaya justifiable yun)sa palagay mo, kaya kaming protektahan ng sulat na yan?hindi, di ba?ano ang pinakamabuti naming gawin?linisin ang pangalan namin para kapag natanggal kami sa work eh walang kasong nakabuntot sa amin at makakakuha pa rin kami ng recommendation letter from our principal or from the human resource office?ano sa palagay mo?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, the answer to your question is: because those individuals are acting in their capacity as officials of the school district. That's why. And its wrong to think that because you filed a lawsuit against the district, then you right away hate the school district as an institution. That is not correct. FEF discussed this position in its statement.
ReplyDeleteGurong Sulong.
ReplyDeleteMatulog kana at tapusin mo na ang lesson plan mo. Your explanation are weak and with no merit. Hirit ka ng hirit ay bokya na kayo. So sleep na. And stop forcing us to join your COMPENSATION efforts sa school natin, ok... sleep, sleep, baka mapuyat ka. Don't scrutinize our comments please lang ano..ah. tulog na, gabi na.
hahaha.gawa ko na ang LP ko for two weeks.your explanation is weaker and more unmeritorious.hindi ko alam kung bakit kailangan ninyong magsinugnaling sa mga teachers at ipangalandakan na yung tatlong employees lang ang kinasuhan ninyo.di ba yan ang sinabi ninyo sa dimsum?andaming nakarinig nyan.halos lahat ng mga teachers sinasabi nilang hindi nila alam na kakasuhan pala ang ebr.hay naku kawawang mga teachers.lahat damay sa kaso.ano ba ang mga pinaggagawa nyo.magiging landmark case yang kasong yan at pag lumabas ang judgment sikat kayo, yan ay kung andito pa tayo sa louisiana.goodluck sa ating lahat at sa kinabukasan ng mga anak natin.haaayyy....
ReplyDeleteGurong Sulong is right EVERYONE. Hindi ko nababasa ang name ng school namin. Ano ang pinagsasabi ng mga yan. Wala naman ang East Baton Rouge Parish School dito. Di ba Gurong Sulong. TAMA.
ReplyDeleteDefendants”) and legal facilitators (referred to collectively as “Legal Facilitator
Defendants”) who the Louisiana School Districts hired, as well as from one of their
employers, the East Baton Rouge Parish School Board (“EBRPSB”), and agents of
EBRPSB (referred to collectively as “Employer Defendants”), who were aware, or
reasonably should have known of the Recruiter Defendants’ egregious conduct, and
who took steps to ensure the trafficking scheme was viable.
Nobody is promising anybody visa renewal here; not the school district, not SPLC, not AFT or LFT, and not FEF. Making sure that you perform well in your school will be the best way to achieve that. If you are fired, despite of that and without valid reason or due process then that is an issue that we are willing to help.
ReplyDeleteRemember that what we are fighting for here is to correct the injustices that were committed. So as long as we perform well and be vigilant of our rights, then there is less reason to be insecure about our employment.
"Anonymous, the answer to your question is: because those individuals are acting in their capacity as officials of the school district. That's why. And its wrong to think that because you filed a lawsuit against the district, then you right away hate the school district as an institution."
ReplyDeleteBalikan mo nga yung napag-aralan mo sa grammar particularly rules on commas and punctuation marks. if you are enumerating things or persons and you separate them with a comma, it means they are not the same, they are different.
Defendants: East Baton Rouge parish School Board, Placide, Swinford, Williams ....
Ibig sabihin iba-ibang entities/tao yan.Wag mong sabihin sa akin na kaya isinama ang schoolboard kasi part ng school district sina placide, swinford at williams.mali!ask your english teachers.di ako english teacher pero naaalaa ko pa yung itinuro sa akin noong grade 4 ako.
in the same way that if you say:
ReplyDeleteDefendants: Universal Placement, Lulu Navarro...
Ibig sabihin, kinasuhan mo ang universal placement as a business entity at kinakasuhan mo rin si lulu as an officer of that entity or maybe in her individual capacity.
hoy kayong mga teachers na gising pa, e draft niyo ang letter and have it notarized. Idala niyo sa human resources department para hindi tayo masama sa gulo. Mahirap maghanap ng trabaho ngayon kung kasama ka sa gulo. Pamilya at mga anak natin muna ang talagang importante.
ReplyDeleteGurong Sulong is right EVERYONE. Hindi ko nababasa ang name ng school namin. Ano ang pinagsasabi ng mga yan. Wala naman ang East Baton Rouge Parish School dito. Di ba Gurong Sulong. TAMA.
ReplyDeleteDefendants”) and legal facilitators (referred to collectively as “Legal Facilitator
Defendants”) who the Louisiana School Districts hired, as well as from one of their
employers, the East Baton Rouge Parish School Board (“EBRPSB”), and agents of
EBRPSB (referred to collectively as “Employer Defendants”), who were aware, or
reasonably should have known of the Recruiter Defendants’ egregious conduct, and
who took steps to ensure the trafficking scheme was viable.
***Huwag ka ngang maging tanga.basahin mo ang NOA mo.sino ba ang petitioner mo?nakita mo ba ang name ng school mo sa NOA?di ba ang nakalagay doon East Baton Parish School Board, yan ang employer mo. bakit mo idedemanda ang employer mo.Kapag kinasuhan mo ang employer mo, pwede ka ng mamundok!
"Your explanation are weak and with no merit."
ReplyDeleteWala ka ngang masabing matinong counter argument e now you have the gall to say that. Sige nga, i challenge you, which explanation is weak and tell me your opinion why you think its weak. The problem is that you don't open your mind and you don't read well before opening your mouth.
But at any rate, I am not answering your points for you, but for the benefit of others who are reading this blog. I still believe that most of our fellow teachers will be able to recognize meaningful comments as opposed to empty rhetoric.
To Grade 4 mentality.. Attorney ka ba? kailangan mong e-refund ang tuition mo kasi hindi ka natutong english grammar.
ReplyDeleteAnong palagay mo sa amin, hindi marunong magbasa!
Defendants”) who the Louisiana School Districts hired, as well as from one of their
employers, the East Baton Rouge Parish School Board (“EBRPSB”), and agents of
EBRPSB (referred to collectively as “Employer Defendants”),
tinawagan ako kanina.sabi ready na daw ang letter at sa school board mismo dadalhin thursday morning.
ReplyDeleteito ay open invitation lamang ha wag magagalit ang iba dyan kasi makikisawsaw kami sa blogsite ninyo.di naman kasi kami federation kundi assemly lang kaya walang blogsite.hehe
"Sa lahat ng ayaw madamay sa kasong ito, bukas po ang signing ng Manifesto, 7pm. Alam na po ninyo kung sino ang dapat kontakin"
Sinasabi lang namin kasi baka meron pang may gustong pumirma na hindi namin nasabihan.Walang pilitan ito.Respetuhin at igalang ang desisyon ng bawat isa.Ayos ba?
Huwag ka ngang maging tanga.basahin mo ang NOA mo.sino ba ang petitioner mo?nakita mo ba ang name ng school mo sa NOA?di ba ang nakalagay doon East Baton Parish School Board, yan ang employer mo. bakit mo idedemanda ang employer mo.Kapag kinasuhan mo ang employer mo, pwede ka ng mamundok!
ReplyDeleteang sagot ko ay hindi naman kasama ang EBR sa demanda. East Baton Parish School Board ang idemanda, ok..
Hahaha, nowhere did I say that the school district is not included as defendants. Thank you so much for giving me a lesson about punctuations but you missed the point again. Please read this at least 5 times and try to understand it.
ReplyDelete"So, we are not against the district per se but we are against the involvement of those people who represented the district. If these people are found guilty conniving with the criminal Lulu, it is but proper to include them as well as the institution (the district) they represent because clearly, the district benefited financially as the fees that they (the district) are supposed to pay as mandated by law were illegally charged to us."
P.S. I added "(the district)" so that you will understand better.
To Grade 4 mentality.. Attorney ka ba? kailangan mong e-refund ang tuition mo kasi hindi ka natutong english grammar.
ReplyDelete***Naku po kawawang nilalang.Basahin mong mabuti ang complaint at himayin para maintindihan mo.
3. Plaintiffs bring this action on behalf of themselves and similarly
situated teachers to recover damages and to seek declaratory and injunctive relief against the fraudulent and malicious recruiters (referred to collectively as “Recruiter Defendants”) and legal facilitators (referred to collectively as “Legal FacilitatorDefendants”) who the Louisiana School Districts hired, as well as from one of their employers, the East Baton Rouge Parish School Board (“EBRPSB”), and agents ofEBRPSB (referred to collectively as “Employer Defendants”), who were aware, or reasonably should have known of the Recruiter Defendants’ egregious conduct, and who took steps to ensure the trafficking scheme was viable.
Ang ibig sabihin nito:
nagsasampa kayo ng demanda para makakuha ng danyos (o pera).
kanino?
1.recruiters
2.leagl facilitators hired by the school district
3.employer specifically East Baton Rouge Parish School Board
4.agents of EBR (placide, swinfor, williams)
Napakalinaw di ba?
ang EBR po or school district at East Baton Rouge School Board ay iisang entity.Yan po ang employer natin.yan po ang petitioner natin na nakalagay sa NOA natin.malinaw na kinasuhan ang employer/petitioner natin.
ReplyDeleteay thank you po Gurong Sulong. i understand na. inexplain ng kaibigan. Magkita po tayo sa pirmahan ng manifesto sa thursday 7 p.m. pasensiya na po.
ReplyDeleteTo all teachers, if you have analyzed all the facts, you understood all repercussions, and you know deep in your heart that you don't want to be part of the class action lawsuit, then by all means we are encouraging you to sign the manifesto.
ReplyDeleteBut if you have some doubts and if you have lingering questions, there will be a discussion on Saturday and an AFT lawyer will be here to thresh out the legal move. All you have to do is hold your decision and keep an open mind and listen.
If after the discussion you think that you don't want to be part of the lawsuit then there is definitely nothing wrong with that.
sa isang lawsuit kasi, hindi mo naman pwedeng sabihing defendant ang east baton rouge school district or system kung ang registered name ng directors nito or boardmembers nito ay east baton rouge parish school board.lahat ng galaw ng system ay based sa policies or resolutions ng school board.they are one and the same entity.kapag kinasuhan mo ang school board, kinasuhan mo ang buong system or school district.
ReplyDelete"1.recruiters
ReplyDelete2.leagl facilitators hired by the school district
3.employer specifically East Baton Rouge Parish School Board
4.agents of EBR (placide, swinfor, williams)
Napakalinaw di ba?"
Mukhang ikaw yata hindi rin nalinawan a. Legal Facilitators pertain to Silverman and his law firm. The lawyer of Lulu and UPI, NOT "hired by the school district" according to your post.
3. Plaintiffs bring this action on behalf of themselves and similarly
ReplyDeletesituated teachers
**Ang ibig sabihin nito ay:
Yung nagdedemanda ay nagsampa ng kaso para sa kanila at para sa mga taong nasa kagaya nilang sitwasyon. Kung ang nagdemanda ay Filipino teacher, H1B worker, a citizen of the Republic of the Philippines,lahat ng kagaya nila ay pwedeng sumali sa demanda.
Kung ayaw mong sumali, anong gagawin?
Pwedeng hintayin yung letter to opt out na ipapadala ng lawyers for the plaintiffs. That's the legal way of getting out of the lawsuit.
Pwede bang pumirpa sa manifesto?pwede kung gusto mo lang iparating sa schoolboard na hindi ka kasama sa kaso.Kapag lahat ay nakapirma na sa letter/intent to opt out, ipapadala ang kopya sa lahat ng plaintiffs at defendant.
There will be a discussion on Saturday and an AFT lawyer will be here to thresh out the legal move.
ReplyDeleteMaliligtas ba ng union at attorney ang trabaho namin. Sino ang magbabayad na mga utang. Ang AFT, FEF, lawyer, o si Ingrid ba? Huwag mo kaming paandaran, kasi hindi kami mga tanga. Stop forcing us Gurong Sulong. We have the right to make our own choices in life. Don't control us with your words. Basta importante, yung pamilya ko dito at sa pinas. Huwag kayong matakot kasi pag nawalan tayo ng trabaho hindi naman mababalik ang sweldo natin. Kapag na reduce ng workfore ang EBR, legal yun at walang magagawa ang union at attorney nila. Huwag matakot sa salita.
"1.recruiters
ReplyDelete2.leagl facilitators hired by the school district
3.employer specifically East Baton Rouge Parish School Board
4.agents of EBR (placide, swinfor, williams)
Napakalinaw di ba?"
Mukhang ikaw yata hindi rin nalinawan a. Legal Facilitators pertain to Silverman and his law firm. The lawyer of Lulu and UPI, NOT "hired by the school district" according to your post.
*******HIndi ko na kasalanan yun.Malinaw ang nakalagay sa lawsuit complaint ninyo:
"... and legal facilitators (referred to collectively as “Legal FacilitatorDefendants”) who the Louisiana School Districts hired"...
tama naman yung ginawa nyong complaint ah:
ReplyDeleteang immigration lawyer kasi kapag nagfile ng petition, nirerepresent nya ang petitioner at hindi ang placement agency.
matutulog na po ako....
ReplyDelete"Sa lahat ng ayaw madamay sa kasong ito, bukas po ang signing ng Manifesto, 7pm. Alam na po ninyo kung sino ang dapat kontakin"
ReplyDeleteKung sino kaman.
THANK YOU. SALAMAT SA INYO. PUPUNTA KAMI.
GOD BLESS.
"Maliligtas ba ng union at attorney ang trabaho namin."
ReplyDeleteWalang makapagligtas ng trabaho mo kundi ang performance mo. Kahit at the worst case scenario magbawas pa ng tao, kung maganda ang performance mo, you stand a greater chance to be retained.
"Huwag mo kaming paandaran, kasi hindi kami mga tanga. Stop forcing us Gurong Sulong. We have the right to make our own choices in life. Don't control us with your words."
ReplyDeleteSabi mo hindi ka tanga, pero the way you act is parang tanga ka nga. Kakatuwa ka talaga, we are exchanging ideas here and you say i am controlling "you with words"!!! Eh ikaw sumasagot din a, can i say that to you too? Hahaha! Hey stop posting in this blog, you are controlling the supporters of the class suit with your words! Haay naku.
It is clear that you don't want others to listen to other people's opinions especially the discussion with the lawyer. You just want them to sign your manifesto blindly. That puts into question your motive why you are rushing people to sign.
Gurong Sulong
ReplyDeleteWalang makapagligtas ng trabaho mo kundi ang performance mo. Kahit at the worst case scenario magbawas pa ng tao, kung maganda ang performance mo, you stand a greater chance to be retained.
Mas safe ba kung hindi kasama sa lawsuit niyo? Palagay namin ay hindi. Pasensiya ka na Gurong Sulong, kasi mas importante sa amin ang trabaho para maligtas ang mga pamilya namin. Ayaw namin pumila sa unemployment office baka may dumating na reporter pa. kayo nalang. huwag na kayong magdamay. may buhay na kami dito. please lang.
Sabi mo hindi ka tanga, pero the way you act is parang tanga ka nga.
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eto ba ang pagsasalita ng isang official sa grupo niyo na tawagin akong 'TANGA' at 'TANGA KA NGA'. Napaka respectable mo naman. Hindi po kayong karapat dapat mamuno sa mga tao kasi masakit po kayong magsalita. Opinion po ng mga taong sumasali sa niyo. Sabi niyo pa ay blog niyo ito. Masyado po kayong maglait at napa kasit niyo magsalita.
Kami po ay gusto po naming e una ang mga pamilya namin at ayo po naming maki gulo sa aming eskuela na nag swe-sweldo sa amin. Ayo po namin kagatin ang kamay na nagpapakain sa mga anak ko at asawa namin. yun lang po.
Anonymous, i understand your point, pero you are the one who started to accuse me of "controlling other with your words". You are in effect saying nanloloko ako. Despite the fact that i said:
ReplyDelete"To all teachers, if you have analyzed all the facts, you understood all repercussions, and you know deep in your heart that you don't want to be part of the class action lawsuit, then by all means we are encouraging you to sign the manifesto."
So i am being very fair. And we just want peolpe to decide after they have the full information pero but you don't want that. And why are you still saying that i am forcing people to join the action despite the fact that i repeatedly said otherwise. all we want is for people to decide with complete knowledge of the issues.
"ang immigration lawyer kasi kapag nagfile ng petition, nirerepresent nya ang petitioner at hindi ang placement agency."
ReplyDeletei stand corrected. salamat. (though we know that silverman is really the lawyer of UPI and Lulu, but you are correct that silverman is technically also the lawyer of the district in the filing of the petition.)
sa question mo, mas safe ka ba kung pipirma ka sa manifesto nyo? ang sagot hindi rin! do you think if mag-sipsip tayo sa district will it mean that our job will be more secure? I dont think so. I still have faith that the people in the district are intelligent and professional enough despite the lawsuit to retain those that really deserves.
ReplyDeletenobody here (SPLC, AFT, LFT, FEF and even the school district) is giving assurances of renewal of visa or continued employment. pero ngayon kung patatalsikin ka ng district dapat talaga may valid reason and may due process, otherwise pwede ma-interpret na retaliation (kung part ka ng lawsuit). for sure the district will now make sure that laws are being followed as they would not want to be slapped with another labor suit.
for sure the district will now make sure that laws are being followed as they would not want to be slapped with another labor suit.
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Gurong Sulong. Nan diyan ka naman. Another lawsuit na naman po.E sakit lang ng ulo ang gusto pala natin. Masasabi ko ba yan sa mga anak ko na nakikipagaway ang magulang nila sa employer nila kaya napag-initan at nawalan ng trabaho. e kung mawala ang mga trabaho namin, saan kami pupunta? Mas ok na po siguro na hindi na kami sasali sa demanda niyo. Pasensiya na po mom, alam ko ay hindi naman natutulog ang diyos natin at esasalba ang mga pamilya namin sa gulo.
Mahirap pong magisip na alam ng school na kasama kami at hindi po makakatulog ang pamilya kung may gulong ganito. sorry po mom.
"Kami po ay gusto po naming e una ang mga pamilya namin at ayo po naming maki gulo sa aming eskuela na nag swe-sweldo sa amin. Ayo po namin kagatin ang kamay na nagpapakain sa mga anak ko at asawa namin."
ReplyDeleteYou are saying this as if you are the only ones with families to feed and children to send to school. This is exactly why we are doing this: to stop this oppression once and for all so that we can help our respective families better. Not only that, we are also helping the children and the families of other teachers who will also be victimized if this is not stopped. For once let us not think of ourselves only. You try to present us as evil who are out to only get money but you failed to even think that what you are doing is against the Christian value of helping your neighbors and not only yourself. Do you really think that we have risked the ire of Lulu when we still dont have lawyers, when we were not organized, when we were powerless, so that years later we can file a class suit to earn money?
We have proven to you that for more than two years we have been consistent at standing up against Lulu even during the time that many think its foolish to do so. Before we have no network to help us with our legal actions against Lulu and UPI but we persevered to voice out our concerns.
you are calling the name of your god pero ang action mo ay against sa turo ng diyos to help others and don't only think of yourself.
ReplyDeletemga teachers na pirpirma bukas, goodluck po sa pag pirma ng manipesto. Hindi po tayo mga sunod sunuran sa gusto ng grupo nina Ingrid. Sila po ang nagumpisa nito at sila LANG ang tatapos nito. Sabihin lang sa manifesto sana na naloko tayo sa meeting ng AFT,FEF,lawyers nila na hindi sasama ang school, pero nagsinungaling sila sa atin. Sinaman din ang school natin. Ginamit ang mga pangalan natin na hindi natin nalalaman.
ReplyDeleteano pa kaya pag wala na tayong trabaho. maliligtas ba tayo ng grupo na yan. Isipin lang natin ang mag pamilya natin at sanay matapos na. sabihin natin ang totoo bukas. Good luck po sa inyong lahat and God Bless everybody tomorrow.
we wish you good luck. but we are very confident that teachers are intelligent enough to decide whats is best for themselves and for the greater good.
ReplyDeleteyes, we are confident, intelligent and we what's best for us.that's why we are signing the manifesto.
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ReplyDeletemga teachers na pirpirma bukas, goodluck po sa pag pirma ng manipesto. Hindi po tayo mga sunod sunuran sa gusto ng grupo nina Ingrid. Sila po ang nagumpisa nito at sila LANG ang tatapos nito. Sabihin lang sa manifesto sana na naloko tayo sa meeting ng AFT,FEF,lawyers nila na hindi sasama ang school, pero nagsinungaling sila sa atin. Sinaman din ang school natin. Ginamit ang mga pangalan natin na hindi natin nalalaman.
ano pa kaya pag wala na tayong trabaho. maliligtas ba tayo ng grupo na yan. Isipin lang natin ang mag pamilya natin at sanay matapos na. sabihin natin ang totoo bukas. Good luck po sa inyong lahat and God Bless everybody tomorrow.
August 11, 2010 4:37 AM
it is very obvious that you were never been to any and all of the meetings either called for by the principled group.
you can shout till your face is blue all the lies that you are stressing especially the lie that we have guaranteed you that ebr will not be involved. there were so many intellectual discussions where moral and legal bases where considered, and if you were on those meetings you will never ever be saying your crap.
to OUR GROUP who stood and took the needed legal steps and actions, let us just smile and wait and focus to our professional and personal lives.
Ang sarap magbasa nang pag-aaway away ng mga taong nakikipaglaban sa hustisya.Naiinip na ako sa bunga. Sana matapos na agad para malaman kung ang gusto nilang pagpunta rito na malibre lahat sa lahat nang gastusin. Sino ang pumunta sa America nang libre?Meron ba kayong alam? Sa punot dulo nang inyong ipinakikipaglaban ay makubra ninyong lahat ang ginastos papunta rito.Kapal naman ng mga pagmumukha ninyo. Kami na ipinadala ng recruiter namin sa Mississipi ay pinabayaan na lamang walang sumalo, walang bahay na tinuluyan, walang maayos na trabaho. Hindi katulad ninyo. Hindi pinabayaan may trabaho sumusweldo ng malaki may kotse may bahay. Nagbayad din kami ng placement fee pero naiinggit kami sa inyo. Ano ang pa hanap ninyo? Tama yong nagpost ng Grrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedy. KARMA? wait for it.
ReplyDeleteto OUR GROUP who stood and took the needed legal steps and actions, let us just smile and wait and focus to our professional and personal lives.
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Yan, sana gawin niyo na mag FOCUS sa professional and personal lives. Baka dumating ang panahon ay kayo kayo din ang mag demandahan. Mas mabuti ay magtulungan sa kabubuti ng bagong buhay natin dito at alisin na ang paninira ng puri, pag demanda ng employer at sino man. Isipin natin ang future ng mga anak, asawa, kapatid, nanay, tatay, at mga mahal natin sa buhay. Siguro sinusubukan tayo ng diyos na alisin ang galit sa katawan natin. Wala namang nagugutom sa atin, o nakatira sa bangketa. Mayroon naman tayong napapadala sa LBC. Nakakasimba ba tayo. tapos ay kakain at nagtatawanan. Napakasarap talaga kung iisipin mo ang pagsasamang marangal. Sana itong araw na ito ang simula ng pagsasama natin na masaya at pagpuri sa iba. Mabuhay tayong lahat.
Nagsisimba ka nga pero ok lang sayo na patuloy ang pang-aabuso ni Lulu sa ibang mga tao kasi ok na buhay mo na meron ka namang pwede magawa. Bahala na ang iba kasi maayos na buhay na pamilya mo... Santong kabayo!!!!!!!! Hi Hi Hi Hi!!!!
ReplyDeleteNagsisimba ka nga pero ok lang sayo na patuloy ang pang-aabuso ni Lulu sa ibang mga tao kasi ok na buhay mo na meron ka namang pwede magawa. Bahala na ang iba kasi maayos na buhay na pamilya mo... Santong kabayo!!!!!!!! Hi Hi Hi Hi!!!!
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mga kaibigan at nagbabasa ng blog, eto po ang mga salita ng mga namumuno sa grupo nila. Sasabihin na Santo kabayo ang diyos natin na tawa tawa pa. Eto ba ang mga taong dapat magpakita na magandang halimbawa sa atin. Obvious na naiinis sila kasi hindi makuha ang gusto nila. Hindi po ang grupo na ito ang mag represent sa Filipino community natin kasi masakit silang magsalita at malakas mang duro. Nakapatung lang sa medyo mataas na position at sila ay naiiba na. Ano pa kaya kung hindi nila makuha sa atin na mga guro ang gusto nila. Sisirain ba tayo sa mga kaibigan natin o kaya sa mga namumuna sa eskuela natin. Pagisipin po natin ito kasi hindi mababagay sa mga pinuno ang magsalita na masakit sa iba. Ang pinuno ay dapat mag hanap na solution na tama at walang kaka sakit sa iba. yung lang po.
O bakit ang tawa ko ang pinoproblema mo. Di ba tamam naman ang sabi ko at ang point ni Gurong Sulong. Klarong klaro na pasimba simba ka pa pero pagdating sa iyong Christian obligation to help others and not only yourself di mo man lang magampanan! Ano tawag sayo: Hipocrite!
ReplyDeleteSo you think ikaw ba ang klaseng lider na dapat tularan, iniisip sarili lang?
Banal na aso! Natatawa ako... Hi Hi Hi Hi!
At sya nga pala, hina talaga ng common sense mo. santong kabayo does not refer to your god. It refers to you! pa-santo santo ka pa, ugaling kabayo ka naman. (pardon me, its not my intention to demean horses). So kuha mo na ba why what you are saying and doing reflects your hypocrisy?
ReplyDeletefrom Teacher43
ReplyDeleteBanal na aso! Natatawa ako... Hi Hi Hi Hi!
pa-santo santo ka pa, ugaling kabayo ka naman. (pardon me, its not my intention to demean horses).
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ito po ang klasing pananlita na hindi dapat sabihin maski kanino man. Sino ang matutuwa sa sinasabi niyo. Sana ay patawaran ka at maiba sana ang sama ng loob ng grupo (FEF)sa amin.
ang decision namin ay choice namin. sana maintindihan niyo at huwaG sanang magalit sa decision namin.
ang pakiramdam namin ay ganito kayong magusap usap sa mga meeting ninyo. sana ay mag ayos kayo sa magandang paraan.
basta kami ay pamilya muna talaga ang importante at hindi sama ng loob. Mabuhay tayong mga guru.
o im not saying that anybody else is hypocrite. im not saying na ang sasama sayo ay hypocrite. ikaw lang ang pinasasabihan ko! kasi ikaw lang ang pasabisabi about god and attending church tapos sarili mo lang iniisip mo! So lets call a spade a spade. You are only thinking of yourself then you assert the name of God. So ano nga ba yan kundi selfishness and hyporicricy, very unchristian. Well, as i earlier said santong kabayo.
ReplyDeleteTumpak na tumpak! I completely agree with Teacher43. So para sayo anonymous, eto ang theme song mo. :-)
ReplyDeleteBanal na Aso
by Yano
Kaharap ko sa dyip ang isang ale
Nagrorosaryo mata niya'y nakapikit
Pumara sa may kumbento
Sa babaan lang po sabi ng tsuper kase me nanghuhuli
Mura pa rin nang mura ang ale
Banal na aso, santong kabayo
Natatawa ako hihihihi
Banal na aso, santong kabayo
Natatawa ako hihihihi
Sa 'yo
Nangangaral sa kalye ang isang lalake
Hiningan ng pera ng batang pulubi
Pasensya na para daw sa templo
Pangkain lang po sabi ng paslit
Talagang di ba pupwede?
Lumipat ng pwesto ang lalake
Anuman ang iyong ginagawa sa iyong kapatid
Ay siya ring ginagawa mo sa akin.
mga taong nag blog sa site na ito. eto po ang mga pinuno at officers ng blog na may sama ng loob sa atin:
ReplyDeleteGurong Sulong, Teacher43, Treb at iba pa.
kung nagbabasa kayo, walang silang kaya gawin kundi magmura, manira ng kapwa. Di ba po?
Naiinis sila sa akinG pagsasalita kase MASAKIT TANGAPIN ANG TOTOO. Ang sugat na malalim ay madaling umaray. Wala na silang masabi kasi para palitan ang pagiisip natin. Mabuhay.
yung mga nag class-action-suit at pumirma sa manifesto. baka e-email nila sa mga ibang ibang district ang mga pangalan ng mga nag demanda. Dahil sa manifesto, hindi tayo kasama sa listahan. yun lang po.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, it shows that you are the one who can't control your temper. And your posts show na ikaw ang inis na inis. Yes you are right "MASAKIT TANGAPIN ANG TOTOO".
ReplyDeleteTell us what is wrong with the posts of Teacher43 and Treb?
Please, at least be intellectually honest. Tell the readers of this blog which are the part of their comments na minumura ka?
""Well, you have underestimated us. You have underestimated the power of our unity""
ReplyDeleteWHAT UNITY? YOUR UNITY? 5 People and a few who didn't know their names were dragged into it. ha.ha.ha.
Hindi lang pala epokrito, mahina talaga kukuti nito. Aminin mo na kasi na selfish ka at hyporcrite ka. Huling huli naman sa mga post mo e. Ang isda nahuhuli sa bunganga!
ReplyDeleteUNITY UNITY UNITY YEYYYYY UNITY UNITY YEYY UNITY!!
ReplyDeleteWhere is it? its quiet. OO WHERE IS UNITY? Here doggy, here horsy.. Where are U 'UNITY' WE CAN'T FIND YOU UNITY... WHA.WHAAA.WHAA. nawawala is UNITY KO! where are u.
my precious child, listen to me,
THERE IS "NO UNITY".. UNITY has passed away.
KARMA, KARMA, KARMA, KARMILLION, you come and go 'oo' 'ohh' this the right song for teachers SUING the school while still employed. They are asking 5 million dollars from the Class action lawsuit.
ReplyDeleteKARMA, KARMA, KARMA, KARMILLION...
to your group: treb, gurong-sulong,teacher43,et.al.
ReplyDeletethis is your theme song!
Money
Hallelujah
Now I lay, I lay me down to sleep
Hallelujah
Almighty dollar
I praise the lord afford my roll to keep
Hallelujah
Almighty dollar
Money
I need more money
Just a little more money
Yeah, I need more money
Money, money
I need more money
I need more money
Just a little more money
Just a little more money
Yeah, I need more money
Yeah, I need more money
And give us these days
Our daily bread
Only you we praise
Almighty dollar
Money
My personal saviour
Money
A material lust
Money
Life’s only treasure
Money
In God we trust
And if I should die before I wake
Hallelujah
Almight dollar
I’m gonna take the money that I make
Hallelujah
Almighty dollar
Money
I need more money
Just a little more money
Yeah, I need more money
Money, money
I need more money
I need more money
Just a little more money
Just a little more money
Yeah, I need more money
Yeah, I need more money
And give us these days
Our daily bread
Only you we praise
Almighty dollar
Money
My personal saviour
Money
A material lust
Money
Life’s only treasure
Money
In God we trust
I am a Filipino now based here in Middle East and have little knowledge about the law. Based on the news reports (CNN, etc.) and this blog. My advise to the group pursuing the case against the employer is that be careful in all your actions because in the end you might be the one caught in the thread. Do not force your fellow teachers to subscribe in your motives or use their names without their permission to be included in the case - class lawsuit. If you do this, this might constitute an unlawful or unauthorized use of identity which is punishable under the law---most countries including the USA has laws applicable to this--that the other group might be used against you. Do not force them as Miss. Cruz said, "to the point of no return" they might file an action against your group. As I said, Do not use others identity or name without permission for your own personal gains becuase it is punishable under the law.
ReplyDeleteTo the group that doesn't support this class lawsuit against your employer stay focus on your job and do not subscribe to the other group of thinking which I believe their motives is to enrich themeselves in a very unnatural ways. Still, love them. Whether you like it or not they are still Filipinos. Do not make any action(s) unless you are force to do so and let the court do their job on this class lawsuit. Have PEACE in your HEART...
Let's talk money: Lulu and Mel earned $5,760,000 since 2007 by charging 360 teachers the average amount of $16,000 in order to get a job. That does not include the second year or fees for renewing visas. All of their money is earned off of on the hard work and dedication of others. Now you tell me who's a greedy pig?
ReplyDelete"Do not use others identity or name without permission for your own personal gains becuase it is punishable under the law. "
ReplyDeleteClearly this poor fellow has no knowledge about class suits and have not read the complaint. Hey, before you post those kinds of fake analysis do some reading and a bit of reseach first!
Well, thats the only way for Lulu's alalays (sidekicks) to counter our efforts. Since they are short of intelligent reasoning, and since overwhelming evidence show their flagrant violations then they might as well spread misinformation or question our motives.
ReplyDeletei just seen the cnn interview. tumaba yata si mayee, crush ko pa naman yun. maganda na at ka talino pa. di ko alam kasali siya dito kaya sasali din ako. post nyo naman email at number nya pati address niya please. maraming salamat.
ReplyDeleteMs. Dollarbill,
ReplyDeleteDo you mean you paid $16,000? was that your placement fee? Had you not thought of spending for the application, the processing, the credentialling and all sort for your coming over here? You mean you want to get everything you paid for? That you were able to come to America without spending even a single penny? So the bottom line of all the ipinakikipaglaban ninyo is all about money... money ... money...Bumalik kaya kayo sa Pilipinas at subukan ninyo pumunta rito, bumalik kayo kung tatamasahin pa rin ninyo ang ine enjoy ninyong biyaya ngayon. GReeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedy. Mississipi recruited worker
Mississipi recruited worker and the hyprocrite anonymous who is very fast to judge those who are asking for justice as greedy, we know that you are only one and the same person.
ReplyDeleteSo you are saying that the more than 150 Filipino teachers who already declared their support for the class action lawsuit are greedy. Thats indeed a very Christian act coming from somebody who profess going to church.
And yet you have not said a SINGLE thing about the abuses of Lulu Navarro.
1) Overchages that violated Philippine Laws
2) Threats and intimidation
3) Earning kickbacks from our apartment rent
4) Prohibitng us from talking to other members of the Filipino community
5) Violating US immmigration laws (many of our colleagues who have H1B visas end up here with no jobs for at least several months)
So what can we deduce from that? That you are a paid hack of Lulu Navarro.
klaruhin natin? nandun kami nung panahong dininig ang kaso ni Lulu. Nag suporta kami. eh bakit ngayon EBR na? para saan ba itong pinaglalabang ito? Huwag niyo namang lokohin ang mga matatalinong Totoong guro na hindi niyo hinabla ang kumpanyang nagpapasuweldo at nagbibigay ng perang ipakakain natin sa pamilya natin. Maliwanag na hindi niyo rin ginalang ang karapatang pantao ng mga gurong walang kaalam-alam sa kasong basta niyo na lamang isinampa! Isipin niyo na lang mga kapwa ko totoong guro, nagamit tayo nang walang kamuwang-muwang! Kahit ano pa ang sbihin niyo, magpaikut-ikot man tayo ng salitaan dito iisa pa rin ang lumalabas talagang masama ang magiging epekto ng ginawa niyong paghahabla. Kawawa yung mga gurong mahusay na nagagampanan ang kanilang mga tungkulin bilang guro dito sa Louisiana..
ReplyDeletemaliwanag na ang lahat!bakit ayaw tantanan ng grupo ang mga teachers na ayaw sumali sa kaso? be clever enough to analyze the situation and you will discover the real motive of this/these individual/s behind the filing of the case. they are trying to intimidate other teachers by way of pretending that they so intelligent and know everything about law and rights that a filipino has to enjoy here in america.oh com'on, try to think of it. maliwanag na maliwanag.walang freedom sa filing ng kaso na to.dito mo makikita ang tunay na oppresion. Ingrid, Maye at sa lahat na mga promotor ng kaso, bakit hindi kayo-kayo na lang ang makikipaglaban.pagsinabi sa inyo ng tao na ayaw nila, hwag nyo ng pilitin pa. hindi yong mga pa opt out, opt out pa kayo dyan na option. mark this words: my another group na na binubuo ngayon to file a case against you for not getting their consent before you include them in filing the case.so you better watch out of every move you take. hindi to pnanakot kundi pauna lang to inform you that you made an unintillectual move in this matter.LUMABAN KANG MAG ISA if you think nasa tama ka.Sino ngayon ang manggagamit? CLASS SUIT?
ReplyDeleteHindi tinatantanan? Everyone is free to decide for his or herself. And everyone is free to articulate and promote his or her own ideas. This is a free country and we are just exercising our right to free speech. Are we stopping you or anyone from speaking their minds? There is nothing in this blog that is forcing you to do something. In fact, this blog publishes all comments coming from both sides.
ReplyDeleteKahit pa may binubuo pang isang grupo... wala kaming pakialam, wala din kaming pakialam sa grupo ni Ingrid... Ang mahalagang gawin ayusin natin pagtuturo natin...di tayo matatanggal sa pagtuturo. Salamat po! Ayusin na lang po natin ang trabaho natin!
ReplyDeleteWhy are we focused only on EBR? If you read the totality of the complaint, the focus is against UPI, PARS and Lulu Navarro.
ReplyDeleteBy saying that this class action lawsuit will cause the EBR school district to fire us then you are in effect saying or assuming that all or most members of the EBR board are all biased, unreasonable and hateful people. We believe otherwise.
We trust the school board will act with the best interest of the district and the community. And that can only be done when justice is attained. The EBR district for sure would not want this to happen again and it is in their interest that those within their ranks who collaborated with the criminal Lulu in implementing the oppression should not go unidentified and unpunished.
You know what? did I say we will be fired? I dont think I did.. I said they were the one that give us work and we are working with.. Tinagalog ko na nga ang linaw di ba? Your mind must have been twisted! Basta ang totoo kasama ang EBR sa na file na case! That is the truth..
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ReplyDeleteRead the comment. I am not talking about this blog when I made my comment that "hindi tinatantanan." I am talking about the class suit on how it was being filed and on how your group tried to include others' names in filing the case. THERE IS NO FREEDOM IN THERE because the group never made a consensus to all Filipino teachers if who are only willing to join. The consensus, the meeting, the info dissemination, or whatever was made right after the case was being filed. RIGHT? And even until now, even there is already a move of making that manifesto still you don't stop convincing them of joining you in pursuing the case. STOP using the name of the filipino teacher's federation the mere fact that NOT ALL Filipino teachers are members of that organization.It's now being cleared that you've proposed the creation of such group for your own personal interest. One is purposely for filing the case in which you think will make the move more believable, legal, reliable and strong because it represents a certain group. I must tell you this you will not succeed. Matapang lang kayo dahil may sinasandalan kayo. Anong mangyari sa mga teachers pagnagkataon na matalo o manalo man ang kaso? Bibigyan ba kayo ng trabaho ng AFT o ng mga iilan na nasa Filipino community na yan? Take note, American citizens na yan sila, mga green card holder na. How about us? Saan tayo pupulutin pagdating ng panahon? WAKE UP!
"did I say we will be fired?"
ReplyDeleteI am not even talking about you or your comment. I am taking about it in a general sense because many are now scared about the security of their jobs. Which is not supposed to be.
Gurong Sulong, FEF, AFT/LFT, and officers, huwag na kayong mamilit pa sa amin dito. Yung mga pangalan na sinama niyo na walang 'WRITTEN CONSENT'ay mag pa file kami sa court at sasabihin namin ang lahat ng hindi kasama sa class-lawsuit ninyo para hindi kami madiin kung sakali na manalo o matalo kayo. kayo nalang ang mag enjoy ng compensation niyo. kasi mas importante ang TRABAHO namin at buhay ng mga pamilya namin dito at sa pinas.
ReplyDeletehuwag niyo ng paikutin and ulo namin kasi ay may sarili kaming pagiisip. sana hindi nalang nangyari ito. hindi natatahimik ang isipin namin pag napapagusapan. yung union at mga lawyers nila ay walang magagawa kapag pinadala ang listahan sa ibat ibat school district ng lahat ng nag demanda sa EBR. palagay niyo ng makaka hanap pa ba ng ibang school o trabaho kung may PENDING ng lawsuit sa employer mo. sino ang mag a hire sa atin kung alam nila na mahilig tayong mag demanda ng school natin. tignan niyo naman ang long-term consequences nito. please don't force us to join your so called group on the lawsuit and stop including our names in the lawsuit without any 'WRITTEN CONSENT'. this is against the law and it has a lot of reprecaution. Eto ang gusto ng union talaga na mawala ng trabaho para maka trabaho ang mga US citizens lang. wake up and smell the coffee. nasilaw kayo sa limang million at akala niyo makukuha ka agad. ang class action life-span ay 15 to 20 years bago matapos. ang ibig niyong sabihin ay nasa ulo namin ito kanon katagal. hindi naman ata tama yun. basta kami ay mag pa file the declaration na hindi kami kasama sa lawsuit at ilalagay namin ang mga pangalan namin. sasabihin namin na walang written consent at sinama lang kami.
oh so you are convincing us that we shouldnt be scared? that's so inappropriate! Ask the people, ask the Americans, nobody should sue your employer as long as you have a work and you are not mistreated. I think we are not! As a matter of fact, we are still working. and still in the system and enjoying the benefits.. proof? how did u get your car? how were you able to go home and send money to your family? that is the real Fact. Who mistreated us? that is Lulu Navarro and company they should be the only one, I repeat sole defiant. Lastly, yeah, we shouldnt be afraid of these lawsuit, because this will give us money that we have agreed upon when we are trying to come here in the US. Pera pera lang ano? wala na akong pakelam sa perang nawala na sa kamay ko at nabayaran ko na sa loob ng 2 taon.. my concern is, u should have ask every teachers consent before u filed this case. Lumalabas talaga na pag pinag usapan ang batas, puwede rin kayong kasuhan.. pero who cares? what we care about now is our Job, our family, and our colleagues who still dont know what was really going on..
ReplyDeleteIt is absolutely illegal to include anyone’s identity without their consent. The thought of including another person’s name in a lawsuit without their consent is absolutely preposterous. This is an important sanction to bring awareness to such unethical behavior. BEWARE. It might come back and bite your group with criminal intent to extort compensation from your employer & others involved. BEWARE.
ReplyDeletehelloooo, kung ayaw nyo di huwag. bakit pa kayo nagpopost sa blog na ito? sinabi naman ng marami dito na you can decide for yourself, nobody is forcing you. and this is a blog for those people who seek justice. hindi kayo pinipilit.
ReplyDeleteif some of us are still talking to other teachers and convincing them to attend the legal debriefing on saturday, so that they will understand the action better, then that is their right. are we using violence or coercion to convince them of our ideas? so what are you saying about may namimilit sa yo? illegal ba ang makipag-usap at mag-exchange ng ideas?
takot lang sila na makipag-usap tayo sa iba pang mga kasama natin kasi they know that their close-minded reasoning will easily be unmasked and debunked. the class action complaint is standing on firm moral ground. i dont know why they are so afraid of us continuing to talk about the merits of the case.
ReplyDeleteare we using violence or coercion to convince them of our ideas? so what are you saying about may namimilit sa yo? illegal ba ang makipag-usap at mag-exchange ng ideas?
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there is nothing wrong with this, however; the real intent on your so called 'MEETING' is to persuade others and some how convince us from joining your lawsuit so that your group can justify the names included without our 'WRITTEN CONSENT'. Then your FEF,AFT, and officers can say, these teachers agreed to join in SUING OUR EMPLOYER. THANKS BUT 'NOOOOOOOO' thanks. Take a picture on that meeting and see if you'll see the same people next year with jobs. Our images/pictures will not be included in your website for the school district to see who's who. 'NO THANKS'
mga pangalan ng mga nag demanda ay e pa publish SIGORADO kasi LEGAL public document ito sa case at malalaman kung sino sino kayo. sana isipin niyo. mahirap mag demanda sa school na nawalan ka ng trabaho sa kanila kung wala kang ibabayad sa attorney dahil wala kanang trabaho. may opening pala sa aluminum at bote-bote department sa mga mawawalan ng trabaho. 10 cents per pound at to. para may pang bayad sa utang. hi,hi.
ReplyDeleteFiled 6/2/10 Navarro v. Cruz CA2/1
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IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
SECOND APPELLATE DISTRICT
DIVISION ONE
LOURDES NAVARRO et al.,
Plaintiffs and Appellants,
v.
INGRID CRUZ,
Defendant and Respondent.
B216885
(Los Angeles County
Super. Ct. No. BC402506)
APPEAL from an order of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County. John P. Shook, Judge. Affirmed in part, reversed in part and remanded.
Law Offices of William R. Ramsey and William R. Ramsey for Plaintiffs and Appellants.
Lawrence Rosenzweig for Defendant and Respondent.
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Plaintiffs Lourdes Navarro and Universal Placement International, Inc. (Navarro and UPI, or plaintiffs) appeal from an order of the Los Angeles Superior Court granting the special motion to strike brought by defendant Ingrid Cruz under Code of Civil Procedure section 425.16 (section 425.16), the anti-SLAPP law. Plaintiffs also appeal from the subsequent award of attorney fees and costs to Cruz in the amount of $31,645.82. We affirm in part, and reverse in part.
BACKGROUND
Navarro and UPI filed a verified complaint against Cruz in November 2008, seeking compensatory and punitive damages, injunctive relief, and attorney fees and costs, based on claims of libel, breach of contract, and intentional and negligent interference with prospective economic advantage. In January 2009, they amended their pleading to add a cause of action for misappropriation of trade secrets...
"there is nothing wrong with this"
ReplyDeleteyun naman pa la. nothing wrong with it.
"the real intent on your so called 'MEETING' is to persuade others and some how convince us from joining your lawsuit so that your group can justify the names included without our 'WRITTEN CONSENT'."
you are so good at inventing those scary motives. so you really don't see any merit in the contents of the complaint? really? did you read the complaint? you can not even come to accept that indeed there was injustice that was committed. and yet you are able to read all our "dark motives"! wow you are so good!
so granting (without admitting) that your "dark motives" theory is correct, do you think the other teachers are not intelligent enough to decide for themselves? are you scared that other teachers will fall to our dark motives? and only you can save them?
let's see after filing a complaint of including teacher's name and identity without their 'WRITTEN CONSENT' in the class lawsuit. let's see what the courts will say about this. you know its ILLEGAL to include people without their consent to gain your compensation from your employer. And yes, kayo na lang ng grupo niyo. matatapang lang kayo kasi nagtatago kayo sa saya ng AFT. baka may bagong kaso, CRIMINAL INTENT TO EXTORT COMPENSATION FROM EBR & OTHERS INVOLVED namely plaintiffs, FEF, AFT, & other without written consent. tignan natin. huwag kayong magtago pag may subpoena kayong dumating sa school niyo. BURDEN OF PROOF na force labor, etc. pag wala kayong napakita, ay magiginig kayo sa takot sa daming damages na babayaran niyo. basagin niyo ang alkansiya niyo pag nag ka taon. basta kami ay pamilya, trabaho, at katahimikin ng pagiisip.
ReplyDeleteAre you scared that other teachers will fall to our dark motives?
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ayan naman pala, e di ena ADMIT niyo na may DARK MOTIVES kayo. ano po kaya ang dark motives niyo. E video kami and picturan para masama kami, KAYO NALANG.
haha, bobo talaga. hindi nakuha....
ReplyDeletemasyadong deep ba? :-)
ReplyDeletenahuhuli ang isda sa bunganga di ba sabi niyo?
ReplyDeleteAre you scared that other teachers will fall to our dark motives?
Alam namin na marami pa kayong 'DARK MOTIVES'. paki share naman sa amin o.
haha! im sorry dont want to waste my time to a moron who can't even understand simple english. good night.
ReplyDeleteGurong Sulong baka masagot mo ito. Where there teachers included in the class lawsuit aware their names were added and do you have any written consent from them? if you don't you are in 'BIG TROUBLE' along with your FEF, officers and coherts. be ready.
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This is just the tip of the iceberg. Why would we even need teachers from out of this country when hundreds of teachers were fired after Katrina in New Orleans? CNN, dig deeper, there is much more to Education Corruption in Louisiana. Don't believe the hype. There's an even bigger scandal in New Orleans for any news organization willing to work to uncover it.
"Where there teachers included in the class lawsuit aware their names were added and do you have any written consent from them?"
ReplyDeleteThis issue was discusses already. Please read previous posts. Also read the complaint and see whose name was added there without a consent.
There you go again with your scare tactic. Are we in big trouble? I am so scared...
Fellow teachers, before you criticize the people who have been consistent in standing up against our oppressor, please remember that the true villains in this story is the Lulu-Emilio tandem. Let's stop this criminal duo from victimizing more people, especially our fellow teachers.
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(excerpts from the complaint)
74. Defendant Lourdes Navarro and Defendant Villarba were charged in California with health benefits (Medi-Cal) fraud, grand theft, identity theft, money laundering, forged identification and white collar crime in 2000. Lourdes Navarro pled nolo contendere (no contest) to the charges that she, with others, willfully defrauded more than $1,000,000 from Medi-Cal, and served time in Orange County Jail for this conviction. A warrant to arrest Villarba was issued, but years later was recalled by the court and the action against Villarba was dismissed. Upon information and
belief, Villarba fled the jurisdiction.
75. Defendant Lourdes Navarro pled guilty to a charge of money laundering in New Jersey in 2003.
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Silent Teacher:
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this still does not change the fact that your group is SUING your own employer (EBR) for monetary compensation and added additional plaintiffs (teachers) who didn't give their consent to be added in the lawsuit.
why, you can't sleep about the ILLEGAL act that your group did to us. Take our names out. We will still file a case against your so called 'class action lawsuit' for perjuring our names without our consent. The teachers who opposed the lawsuit or signed the manifest can rest assure that they are not drag into this malicious act of extorting compensation from our school. just be ready. i hope your so called group have some type of insurance, or else its out of pocket for you guys. like we said, JUST BE READY.
im not part of their "group" but after reading the exchange here, i am supporting the class suit. go ahead file a case against them. its your right. by the way, the reason im supporting them is because at least they try to explain their side in a rationale manner but your side always resort to trying to frighten them. i have flash backs of lulu scolding me when you always say "Just be ready."
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Basta kami, importante ang security ng pamilya namin, mga anak at asawa. go ahead and congratulations for adding your name. mag kakaroon ka ng mas maraming flashbacks pag demanda ka ng school for extorting monetary compensation and including teachers'names without their consent. And you said, they try to explain their side. listen to yourself, you said they are 'TRYING' to explain their side. About your flash backs of lulu, the cure for that is to have a CLEAR CONSCIENCE and stop dreaming about the monetary compensation they promise you. Your not a part of their group and again you sign, hmmmm which is the truth. totoo ba yan? baka may flash back ka lang na nag sign ka o akala mo hindi ka nag sign.
"Do not use others identity or name without permission for your own personal gains becuase it is punishable under the law. "
ReplyDeleteClearly this poor fellow has no knowledge about class suits and have not read the complaint. Hey, before you post those kinds of fake analysis do some reading and a bit of reseach first!
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you should be the one doing the research and digest it! whether or not the case filed is class suit you need to get the permission and approval of the person(s) concerned be it juridical or not. in your case, are you willing that your name be dragged into something you don't like or no knowledge at all and used for selfish motives? of course not! do you know the principle of unjust enrichment? it is in this principle why you can't use others identy for your own gains without the consent and/or approval of the other person. anf if you unjust yourself unjustly, it is against the law! get it?
correction:
ReplyDeleteAND IF YOU ENRICHED YOURSELF UNJUSTLY, IT IS AGAINST THE LAW! GET IT!
Anyone who has suggested that the lawsuit is "ILLEGAL" because it was filed as a class action is just plain wrong.
ReplyDeleteFirst, there are only 5 named plaintiffs. The whole point of bringing a class action is based on the fact that the class is too big to name everyone.
Second, who would believe that SPLC, AFT and Covington & Burling would file an "illegal" lawsuit that would subject its clients to liability.
These are pathetic scare tactics.
Finally, Lulu filed the baseless (or in your words "illegal") lawsuits. The trial court threw it out and the appeals court agreed that Lulu's case was baseless and an attempt to stop free speech.
less knowledge is dangeorus!
ReplyDeleteif you are still not convinced of how the lawsuit was studied and planned and implemented, it is because you choose not understand the merits of the issue. even how good and safe a food offered to you is, if you think it is poisoned you will never eat it...so what the heck of explaining the case to you?
truth will set everyone free as said.
i am pretty sure after this weekend, those few who are mislead by the group opposing the lawsuit will be enlightened if they will be open to hear our side. even if you are only few and will not really matter on our case, we still believe you need to be a part of the justice we all deserved.
And yet you have not said a SINGLE thing about the abuses of Lulu Navarro.
ReplyDelete1) Overchages that violated Philippine Laws
2) Threats and intimidation
3) Earning kickbacks from our apartment rent
4) Prohibitng us from talking to other members of the Filipino community
5) Violating US immmigration laws (many of our colleagues who have H1B visas end up here with no jobs for at least several months)
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all those allegations constitute criminal offense. why did your group file a civil case-class lawsuit? it would be more believable if you file criminal case first then from the decision of the criminal case, in case you get them convicted, you file civil case. this will erase the notion that you are only after the money. since you do the civil case first, the notion of monetary gain is and will alwayd be attached to your group.
even how good and safe a food offered to you is, if you think it is poisoned you will never eat it...so what the heck of explaining the case to you?
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safe food? what? you include your employer in the complaint then you call it safe? why not admit that your group struct a deal with your lawyers that by including your employer you'll get more money. why not admit the fact that your group was enticed by these lawyers of money that you might get in case you win...who is fool? who has less knowledge? you are fool and has less knowledge because of money you sued your employer. and, if we are only few then why you bother of giving us attention if our number will not affect your case? we are not questioning the merit of your case. what we care for is that why did you include our names without permission. by declaring that "350 filipino teachers in LA filed a class lawsuit against their employer, recruiter and etc.",already showed that you implicated our names directly in this case without our knowledge. did you ask us whether we are willing to support this case? no, you decide in your own.
Anyone who has suggested that the lawsuit is "ILLEGAL" because it was filed as a class action is just plain wrong.
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who told you that it is illegal? Not your group or the other group can tell and declare that the case filed is in accordance or not with law. Not even your group's lawyers or the other group's lawyer - if they have it now - can tell and declare that the case filed is in accordance or not with law. IT IS ONLY THE COURT THAT HAS JURISDICTION TO TELL US ALL WETHER OR NOT THE CASE FILED IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EXISTING LAWS.
NOBODY IS TELLING OR SUGGESTING THAT THE CASE FILED IS ILLEGAL. THEY DO NOT QUESTION THE MERIT OF YOUR GROUP'S CASE. WHAT THEY ARE ASKING IS THAT WHY DID YOUR GROUP DRAGGED THEIR NAMES INTO THIS MESS WITHOUT THEIR APPROVAL...THAT'S IT!
"unjust enrichment"
ReplyDeletehmmm, you are accusing teachers filing a case against your boss lulu of "unjust enrichment", yet with your intelligence you were not able to figure out who really enriched herself unjustly at our expense????
It is useless to talk to this person as he is just concerned with protecting his boss Lulu. If you read his points the very highlight of his argument is to taint our motives. By repeating and repeating the accusations that our motive is just to get money, he thinks it will stick out as truth. That is the only way he can at least paint us in a negative way. Good luck.
ReplyDeleteone piece of advice...go get great a team of great lawyers so that you will not be mislead.
ReplyDeletewho says that your names are in the case? the only teachers whom i know bravely risk everything to lead the stand upfront for what is right are the five teachers. other than the five teachers, no one else is named suing the defendants of the case. however, there are more teachers who are backing them up which made our legal team decides that there is indeed a merit for the case to be a class suit.
filing the way it is filed is the first step to have a class suit...some bodies will be named in the filing first and ask the court to determine if such case will then be a class suit.
once filed, the court will determine now if there is a merit for the case to be considered as class suit.
if the court deem say it is indeed a class suit, an opt-in, opt-out process will then be provided to the members of the class. that is the time when you need to decide finally if you wanted to take part in the law suit.
those who have signed the retainers simply grant the lawyers to represent them legally and to defend them legally in any court.
again, as of this moment, only the 5 named teachers are at risk and nobody else.
suing the school board took a while to be finalized. it took a lot of discussions from the legal institutions and the stakeholders. it is a legal step we need to take. believe it or not, the school board has something to say on this and hear this, it is not against the the case. the school board were not sued on a personal capacity unlike the three named defendants of ebr and for sure, the board as public servants (their election coming up), they will be on the side of truth and justice.
if you want more clarifications than what the ordinary struggling teacher can give you, kindly attend the case review during tomorrow's activity. you know whom to ask if your interested.
Very well said, thank you.. I'll be there myself for my 100% support for what's right...
ReplyDeleteayun naman pala. sino bang legal adviser naconsult nila warren at nakakagulantang naman ang pag mimislead. kaya pala gusto nila magpapirma ng teachers para di maging class suit and case, at pag naging ganoon di nga naman maaano masyado ang nanay nilang sila lulu at swinford.
ReplyDeletetsaka, ayos lang naman pala mag sue ng employer, di ka pa madalaiang matatanggal dahil sa protection. of course not unless may gawin kang mali or patunayan ng ebr na may extreme budget cut, low enrollment turn out at lost of position, di naman pala tayo matatanggal.
now i know more bakit katapang nila ingrid, kasi alam nila at napaliwanag naman pala ng maayos sa kanila ang lahat.
buti na lang di ako pumirma kina warren. pagnagkataon, isa na naman pirmahang di ginusto ito.
Dumalo at makiisa sa pagpupulong bukas may mga abogadong magpapaliwanag upang maunawaan po nati ang lahat ng ating mga katanungan. Huwag pong maniwala sa mga haka-haka at sabi-sabi, ang lahat po ng inyong mga nais malaman ay sasagutin ng abogado bukas. Magkita-kita po tayo!!!
ReplyDeleteHuwag ninyong iligaw ang mga guro sa mga pinagsasabi ninyong para kay Lulu ang pinaglalaban ng mga gumawa ng manifesto.. ito ay para sa lahat ng mga teachers na hindi nakakaalam na nagamit sa kaso laban sa EBR. Maliwanag naman na pinaiikot niyo lang ang usapan. Si Lulu lang ang dapat kasuhan at kasama niya hindi ang kumpanyang ating pinagta trabahuang lahat. Hindi porke sumama sa manifesto eh tuta ni Lulu. Sabagay yan ang inyong masamang pag-iisip everytime na di sumasama sa inyo tuta ni Lulu, nagkataon lang na alam ng mga guro na ginamit niyo sila at kahit anong sabihin niyo a class of fish will always be collective, not singular!Asaan na ang sinasabi niyong declaration ni Supt. Dillworth? lagi niyo namang pinagmumukhang tanga ang mga teachers lalo na yung ayaw makialam. Pero ngayon nagising na ang mga natutulog, alam na nilang ginagamit lang sila nang wala silang kaalam-alam. Yun ang maliwanag doon.. wag niyong iligaw kasi baka kasamahan niyo din mismo ang tuta ni Lulu diyan, ika nga maraming mapag panggap!
ReplyDeleteAno ba ang proteksyong ipinagmamalaki ni ingrid?yung letter na pinirmahan ng southern poverty law center na nagsasabing bawal galawin ng ebr ang sinumang teacher na nagsampa ng kaso habang itoay nililitis?yan ba ang sinasabi nyong protection ninyo?what if magdeclare next school year ng Reduction in Force (RIF)?sa tingin ninyo kaya kayong protektahan ng letter na yan?HINDI!pag may RIF, unang tatanggalin ang ang H1B worker.sa tingin ninyo makaka-apply kayo sa ibang parish or district or state?saan kayo kukuha ng maayos na recommendation letter kung nasa file/record ninyo na kinakasuhan ninyo ang employer ninyo?
ReplyDeleteyang proteksyong sinasabi ni ingrid ay throughout the duration of the case lang.ano ang mangyayari sa inyong mga nagsampa ng demanda pag natapos ang kaso ninyo?sa tingin ninyo hindi nila kayo kayang patalsikin sa ebr (through subtle and legal means)?kung sa locals nga kaya nilang gawin yan, sa inyo pa kaya? pansamantala lang yang proteksyong yan, yang pagkasira ng record/file mo ay habambuhay na bubuntot sa iyo.
ReplyDeleteyung sinasabi ng grupo ni ingrid na gusto rin ng school board linisin ang institution nila,sa libro lang yan.in theory, all institutions want to clean their system.in reality, institutions are composed of people.not all people go by the book.i'm not saying we should not be idealistic.idealism is good, but too much idealism is just an illusion because people are diverse.
sa mgamag-aattend ng meeting bukas, ito po ang payo ko:suriing mabuti ang sasabihin ng mga lawyers.wag kalimutan na yang mga lawyers na yan ay may VESTED INTEREST sa kasong yan.at pag may vested interest sila they will do everything to convince you.
ReplyDeletewag kukutyain ang lawyer na kinunsulta nina warren dahil expert sa class action lawsuit yun at sikat sa buong Louisiana. at pinakaimportante: NEUTRAL lawyer yun, walang kinikilingan at inexplain lang nya kung ano ang tungkol sa kason.by the way, nadownload nya at binasa nya ang complaint kaya alam nya ang pinapaliwanag nya.
maski isang dosenang lawyers ang dalhin nina ingrid, walang kwenta yan kasi BIASED sila dahil may VESTED INTEREST sila sa case yan.
by the way, wala maski isa sa mga pumirma ng manifesto na nagsabing ayaw nilang kasuhan ni lulu.walang nagpapanggap doon.isa lang ang gusto nilang mangyari: malinis ang record/file nila, na hindi nila kinakasuhan ang employer nila.ang conviction ko kasi, kung kakasuhan ko ang employer ko, magresign muna ako bago ko sila idemanda.hindi yung idedemanda mo ang employer mo tapos iniexpect mo pang ipetition ka.
ReplyDelete"tsaka, ayos lang naman pala mag sue ng employer, di ka pa madalaiang matatanggal dahil sa protection. of course not unless may gawin kang mali or patunayan ng ebr na may extreme budget cut, low enrollment turn out at lost of position, di naman pala tayo matatanggal."
ReplyDelete****im sure bata ka pa kaya ang akala mo ganyan ang totoong kalakaran sa isang organisasyon.nagresearch ka na ba kung ano naman ang nangyari sa mga dating employee na nagdemanda sa employer? andaming paraan para mapaalis ng employer ang isang pain-in-the-ass na employee.umpisahan mo ng magresearch dito sa louisiana mismo at marami kang matutuklasan.
hindi po nanghikayat yung mga teachers na pumirma sa manifesto para hindi ma-qualify na class action lawsuit ang isinampa ninyong kaso.in fact, one hour before the signing of the petition lang nila nalaman na pwede palang hindi ma-qualify na class action lawsuit yang case na yan.
ReplyDeleteon the other hand, kaya gustong magpaliwanag and at the same time manghikayat ng supporters ang lawyers nina ingrid dahil alam nilang malaking pera ang makukuha nila kung class action lawsuit yan.
"the school board were not sued on a personal capacity unlike the three named defendants of ebr and for sure, the board as public servants (their election coming up), they will be on the side of truth and justice."
ReplyDelete***does that make any difference?the thing is YOU SUED YOUR EMPLOYER.have you thought of the consequences of your actions?when the WAFB announced that ebr was sued,the case of H1B workers was sensationalized.the american citizens who desire to teach are now questioning the government and clamoring for these teaching positions.the members of the school board have loyalty to their countrymen and not to H1B workers.
"the thing is YOU SUED YOUR EMPLOYER"
ReplyDeleteAs you have said, you don't care if there is a merit to the case, you just don't want to include the school district in the case.
This is such a close-minded assertion. So what you are saying is that kahit may mga violation ng batas ang employer, ok lang? ang gusto nyo sumipsip because umaasa kayo na dahil sa pagsipsip nyo you will have a better chance of staying in your job.
So binobobo nyo ang school board as if they will give you a favor because you are not part of the class action. We still believe that the school district as an institution is more professional than how you perceive them.
We believe as we have asserted before that the new superintendent and majority of the board are professionals who have the best interest of the district and the children of East Baton Rouge in mind. They will not go on firing Filipino teachers at will because of this. They will always think what is best for the community.
The problem with your premise is that you don't trust the school board to be fair and objective.
one piece of advice...go get great a team of great lawyers so that you will not be mislead.
ReplyDeletewho says that your names are in the case? the only teachers whom i know bravely risk everything to lead the stand upfront for what is right are the five teachers. other than the five teachers, no one else is named suing the defendants of the case. however, there are more teachers who are backing them up which made our legal team decides that there is indeed a merit for the case to be a class suit.
filing the way it is filed is the first step to have a class suit...some bodies will be named in the filing first and ask the court to determine if such case will then be a class suit.
once filed, the court will determine now if there is a merit for the case to be considered as class suit.
if the court deem say it is indeed a class suit, an opt-in, opt-out process will then be provided to the members of the class. that is the time when you need to decide finally if you wanted to take part in the law suit.
those who have signed the retainers simply grant the lawyers to represent them legally and to defend them legally in any court.
again, as of this moment, only the 5 named teachers are at risk and nobody else.
suing the school board took a while to be finalized. it took a lot of discussions from the legal institutions and the stakeholders. it is a legal step we need to take. believe it or not, the school board has something to say on this and hear this, it is not against the the case. the school board were not sued on a personal capacity unlike the three named defendants of ebr and for sure, the board as public servants (their election coming up), they will be on the side of truth and justice.
if you want more clarifications than what the ordinary struggling teacher can give you, kindly attend the case review during tomorrow's activity. you know whom to ask if your interested.
Kita kita tayo bukas mga kasama. lets keep our minds open and not be swayed by the lies being spread by Lulu's tuta. Si Lulu ang siguradong may vested interest in dividing our efforts. She stands to reap the rewards if we don't pursue the class action. So if we are to be wary of people's motives, we should be wary of those supporting Lulu and not the people who have been against Lulu since the beginning.
ReplyDeleteThis person thinks that many will fall to his/her senseless comments. So in summary there is really nothing very intelligent in his/her arguments. All that this person highlights is that all teachers supporting the lawsuit are greedy and all lawyers helping us have vested interests.
ReplyDeleteDuring the case at LWC, nobody said that we are greedy and our lawyers have vested interest. Now, in the class action lawsuit which is spearheaded by the same group of teachers and the same lawyers, we are suddenly greedy and the lawyers have vested interest.
Why? All because we included the EBR district in the case. But as we have explained, rightly so, as that is the principled thing to do. We cannot have selective justice.
But, ok, we accept that some are not comfortable with that move of including the district. But does that make the people behind the case transform from being the brave teachers in the LWC case, into the greedy teachers initiating the class suit? Does that automatically convert those good lawyers at the LWC hearing into lawyers with vested interests?
That is just plain mud-slinging. The fact is, this person and Lulu are afraid for you to come tomorrow in the discussion. They know that their arguments against the class suit and against including the EBR district in the suit are so weak, and attending the discussion will open your mind to the correctness and justness of the action.
We challenge you to come tomorrow and be brave enough to present your "greedy and vested interest" argument in front of everyone. See you.
I agree that no one us has the immunity that our current employer will keep us. Remember the 30+ teachers who have been terminated by this school board for no reason last 2008? Was there no violation took place? Was there justice served for these fellow Filipino teachers? Remember, they've got families too, spent almost the same amount of money as we've spent. Just like anybody else here, I am scared to lose my job too. Who doesn't anyway? I suggest, reflect, assess and make own personal judgment for this issue. I have read, that both groups has different views on suing the school board. I agree. But what circumstance just like I said we are immuned to such firing if they wish to do so? Honestly, right now I am on a 50-50 stand on where to ally. But I have deaf and blind for so long. We are not lawyers, nor experts but remember we are Filipinos. Let us consider everyone. If we are not going to make a stand who will stand for us on behalf of this dilemma. The world is watching us. Lets settle this peacefully, professionally and let us not forget it must be for the welfare of all. If respect is the complete element to have this settled then lets talk and discuss this over the table. I will in your place Aft. Just make sure you will answer all my concerns. I don't wanna be one of those teachers who have fired! terminated! discharged! for no reason at all now that the ebr has the means to do so. Oh by the way did you helped them out? And for those who aspire for their residency? How sure are you that you will be granted? Is that what you up to? There are a lot of things can be posted in here, just like those teachers who haven't had a job. Wasn't it ebr's fault? violation? was there someone? group? helped out these teachers? Anyway let's talk this face to face. Veronica Striker
ReplyDeleteAUGUST 14 OUR BIG DAY!!! LET"S UNITE FOR WHAT'S RIGHT...
ReplyDeleteyun mga Filipino teachers sa New Roads one year lang na-hire. yun namang nasa Jefferson District na-surprise na lang na hanggang this year na lang sila may trabaho. mga competent teachers teachers sila pero nawalan ng trabaho. who's going to be next? ano nagawa ng AFT?
ReplyDeletesana pinasasalamatan na lang natin kung ano meron tayo....
idemanda ba naman pati sariling employer....
sana, nag-trust na lang tayo kay Lord at kung ano man ang ating pinag-daanan eh Siya ang bahalang magbigay sa atin ng gantimpala.... di man dito eh sa ating eternal life.....
Siya na rin lang sana ang bahalang mag-parusa sa mga nag-kakasala.....
Thanks for this day, our noble dreams and intentions are getting clearer and we know God is always guiding us. To tell the truth and stand up for what is right is a humbling experience. It reminds me of Jesus Christ who died on the cross to save us from sin.He never thought of his life,nor his own green card . His love for mankind ruled over his own self . What an unselfish love. When can people learn to put the cause of the majority a priority instead of their personal selfish motives ? When? Why are they so afraid of not getting the green card when in fact they will never get it with or without the case? If you put your trust in God ,you have nothing to be afraid of losing. If you are on the side of righteousness, and think less of yourself,God will make a way when there seems to be no way. When can we start to put our whole trust in God and just be at peace with our own selfish motives? When? May God provide us the wisdom to discern right from wrong..this is my prayer ..
ReplyDeletepeace-maker, mga members ba ng AFT sila? if so please ask them to communicate to AFT. AFT would not be able to help if there is no action on their part.
ReplyDeletealso you think we don't trust the lord? we do. however our lord is the one who will help those who help themselves. our lord did not tell us to turn the other cheek if we see injustice. our lord told us not to be selfish but to work so that injustice against our neighbors are stopped. sino ba lord mo?